Haren?

[TooLiveBrew]

I don't post here much because most everybody else here is more knowledgeable than I am - just something I heard from, as I said, a friend of a friend, and when I saw the Angels story at Ben Maller, it seemed to me that there might be some credence there. I'll be talking to the first "friend" over the holiday weekend - if I hear anything new, I'll post it in both places.

Thanks for clarifying, litesrn. I'll be really interested to see what, if any, news you learn.

[dadofandrew]

Haren is one of the best pitchers in the game, and is signed long-term...I can't believe he'd be moved, and unless I hear ARI is taking offers, will assume he is not on the market.

[jvrocksaz]

From AZ Central online:

 

Doesn't look like Haren is going anywhere...

 

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2009/07/01/20090701dbharen0702-CR.html

[logan82]

Unless Arizona plans on being bad for a few years, what would be their motivation to trade Haren? Whenever somebody brings up trying to acquire a young cheap starting pitcher, I think of how often Sheets was brought up in trade rumors. Why would somebody trade a pitcher that is more than a rental unless they plan on being terrible for several years?

[TheCrew07]

Sheets didn't become Sheets until 2004... once a guy is established it's extremely difficult to acquire him if he's cost controlled. If the Brewers are going to trade for pitching longevity it would more likely be for unproven arms with upside. They might have to go down to AA to get arms.

 

The team needs have to match up... the Rays would have been better off trading us for Fielder than signing Burrell for example, but neither GM was probably "motivated" (to steal a word from Melvin) enough to make deal. If a team is going into rebuilding I can see where they'd give up a pitcher for some top not prospects, but again the prospects have to match up with their needs. If a team already has a good cost controlled catcher are they going to want to trade for Salome or Lucroy? If they have a SS will they trade for Hardy? etc.

[logan82]

Sheets didn't become Sheets until 2004

 

and he was brought up in trade rumors every year after until last year.

 

If the Brewers are going to trade for pitching longevity it would more likely be for unproven arms with upside.

 

Seeing as how that probably wouldn't help us this year, I don't see a deal like that getting done in season unless we have a redundant player. The only guys who might fit that description are Salome or Lucroy.

[Invader3K]

The only "rumors" Sheets was really brought up in were fan proposals and the usual "The Red Sox should go after Sheets!" type national media schlock. I don't recall hearing one substantive rumor involving him.

[804Sox]

Haren is one of the best pitchers in the game, and is signed long-term...I can't believe he'd be moved, and unless I hear ARI is taking offers, will assume he is not on the market.

I agree. Arizona has a really good, young core. With Haren's below-market contract and Webb coming back next year along with a budding superstar in Just in Upton . . .they's be stupid to trade Haren unless the return was someone like Braun or Gallardo (who the Brewers would be unlikely to trade)

 

In my opinion, Mil doesn't have the pieces in the minors to pull this off. The discussion would have to start at Gamel AND Escobar, plus probably one or more projectable arms like Wily Peralta. Just unlikely . . .

[litesrn]

Turns out that, even tho' the "friend of a friend" is connected, it was the beer talking. Doug did talk to the Dbacks about Haren just like the Angels did, but the matchups, as mentioned, don't really work and the cost would be prohibitively high.

[monty57]

With the way Parra has pitched in the majors this year, it's hard to imagine another team viewing him as anything more than a throw in. It's likely not indicative of his true talent, but we don't really know what other teams think of him at this point.

 

Haren would be a perfect player for us to acquire, but as has been stated, would take a boatload of talent and likely won't happen. That said, Parra still has a lot of value, even though he's had a rough season. Lefty starting pitchers that throw in the mid-90s and have shown past success are not "throw-ins." Even players like de la Rosa, who has never been able to throw strikes, has always had some demand. Trading Parra right now would likely be "selling low," but he'd still bring back some talent, particularly to a team that is looking to the future and not playing for this season.