Dbacks idea - 2 birds, 1 stone?

[flosses like fossas]

reading this recent post over at mlbtraderumors.com, i couldn't help but wonder if the dbacks might not be a good place for the brewers to shop for veteran pitching help and a second base stopgap. doug davis and felipe lopez are two players mentioned who are likely to be available. i think we could use davis' consistency and lopez's OBP.

 

i don't know off hand what the dbacks might ask or which pieces the brewers might feel comfortable offering, but i like the sound of it. anyone agree with this? what might it take for the brewers to land davis and lopez?

[pogokat]

Johnny Estrada and Gary Majewski

[TheCrew]

I've liked the idea of Lopez since the day Weeks went down. Davis is nothing spectacular, but it's better than anything else we have for a 5th starter right now. I would think both could be had fairly cheaply...... Lopez is on a 1 year deal and this is the last year of Davis's contract.

[BrewPackBuck]

I dont think we need 2B help since McGehee has broken out and helped fill that hole somewhat along with Counsell. I would love to get Dan Haren from the DBacks but that could be just a pipe dream. I also dont want to see Davis back in a Brewers uniform.

[logan82]

Hall/Counsell/McGehee can fill 2B just fine for the rest of the year. No need to give up prospects on a rental.

[dadofandrew]

I think I said that at Ramblings about a week ago, but neither Davis or Lopez's names have even been floated on the market as of yet. Felipe even says he wants to stay, and both say they love ARI and want to sign long-term.

[JohnBriggs12]

I'd take either Davis or Garland or both right now. Garland's turned it around this month (3.38 in June) and has 9 quality starts despite his high ERA and low K totals and Davis is Davis. He just won't give in to hitters even if it means walking guys and putting fans to sleep. Neither has gotten much run support in Arizona.

[azcheesehead]

Davis' wife is from the EC area, so I would be surprised if he wouldn't at least get excited to come back to Milwaukee. He also would have a bullpen behind him and an offense that can produce runs. Dan Haren, Juston Upton, and Mark Reynolds are probably the only players that are locks to stay in AZ. Josh Byrnes has already gone on record down here on the radio, news, etc. saying that they may be selling in the next few days/weeks.

[patrickgpe]

i think sharpie could be had rather cheep. I think it would be a great move for us, he has a great ERA on a bad team. Id rather go after this type of move then one where we would have to give up a ton of top prospects.

[hawing]

Haudricourt is on this bandwagon. Decide for yourselves whether that's good news or bad. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

As some of you might guess, I'm open to this idea. My Doug Davis game-worn jersey would have some of its relevance restored! (but not all of it, since I'm pretty sure he wouldn't get #49 back)

[craigharmann]

Haudricourt is on this bandwagon. Decide for yourselves whether that's good news or bad. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

Haudricourt is also not a supporter of fan site rumors, which made me laugh. I'd love the idea of getting Dougie back. A lefty in the rotation wouldn't hurt.

[KCBrewerfan34]

This solution would appear to be not sexy but not costly either, AZ could dump $5-6 million in remaining salary and get some mid-level type of prospects. I'm on board.

[Oldcity]

Yeah, funny that TH acted like he "proposed" this.

[chansen]

If we deal for Davis and Lopez this is what needs to happen. First, Lopez must play 2B on a regular basis. Don't let him platoon with another player. He will need to play every day. Last year when Weeks struggled and we picked up Durham I was all for the move. But when he platooned with Weeks Durham was not very good. He played a lot in SF and when traded, his playing time decreased. This can't happen with Lopez. Second, Hardy will play SS as usual but may start to get a few days off here and there. Lastly, Gamel gets sent down to AAA and McGhee plays 3B. Let Gamel get some more AB in Nashville. He will be a September call up anyways. Ride McGhee because he is playing well.

[nate82]

If we deal for Davis and Lopez this is what needs to happen. First, Lopez must play 2B on a regular basis. Don't let him platoon with another player. He will need to play every day. Last year when Weeks struggled and we picked up Durham I was all for the move. But when he platooned with Weeks Durham was not very good. He played a lot in SF and when traded, his playing time decreased. This can't happen with Lopez. Second, Hardy will play SS as usual but may start to get a few days off here and there. Lastly, Gamel gets sent down to AAA and McGhee plays 3B. Let Gamel get some more AB in Nashville. He will be a September call up anyways. Ride McGhee because he is playing well.

First Weeks is a better 2B than Durham was and Durham was traded to be a bench player he wasn't there to replace Weeks. You have to remember Branyan was down with an injury at the time and the bench was rather weak.

 

Gamel is not going to be sent down to AAA anytime soon even with that trade. I would expect McGehee to get more playing time in RF and Hart would be sitting out more games. I wouldn't even be against trading Hart somewhere for some pitching help. Vazquez makes the most sense for that.

[paul253]

Gamel is not going to be sent down to AAA anytime soon even with that trade

 

Why not? I've never understood why you bring up a young player and sit him on the bench. Let him get his regular at bats in Nashville and while he's at it he can get some practice at third base. McGehee has proven to be a valuable asset who should be playing every day. If we get Lopez McGehee should be playing third base with Counsell being the primary backup, which leaves no real reason to keep Gamel on the roster.

[JohnBriggs12]

I have a strong inclination that Arizona is asking for McGehee in any deal that includes Lopez and Davis.

[endaround]

McGehee has "proven" squat. He's had a very good 121 PAs. But that means next to nothing. TGJ just had a great 133 PAs. Yes there's a chance that he finally put it all together. But there's a larger chance that he collapses after this year(or in a month) and returns back to 774 OPS in AAA McGehee.

[Invader3K]

I can't see Melvin giving up McGehee for two "OK" rental players.

[brewmann04]

i think McGehee has Value for us he one of the few Hitters who actually Hitting the Ball. I would Take Davis he be an Upgrade over Suppan and Burns.

[trwi7]

I can't see Melvin giving up McGehee for two "OK" rental players.

Why? He's a 26 year old waiver pickup with pedestrian minor league numbers. He's the definition of an "okay" player.

[nate82]

Why not? I've never understood why you bring up a young player and sit him on the bench. Let him get his regular at bats in Nashville and while he's at it he can get some practice at third base. McGehee has proven to be a valuable asset who should be playing every day. If we get Lopez McGehee should be playing third base with Counsell being the primary backup, which leaves no real reason to keep Gamel on the roster.

Gamel really hasn't been sitting on the bench. McGehee is a good player but I'm not going to give him the starting 3B job he could very well regress back to his AAA numbers while that is not bad I don't think McGehee will continue doing what he is doing. Plus I would rather have McGehee play RF over Hart than having McGehee playing 3B over Gamel.

[trwi7]

Gamel really hasn't been sitting on the bench.

He's started 23 of 42 games since he's been up. So yes he has. He's also had six of those games at DH, which isn't really helping with his main problem.

[yount19.u]

I like this proposal the more I think about it. The Brewers can get two nice pieces without mortgaging their future. Davis would be the 2nd best starter on the team and Lopez would solve the lead off problem. McGehee would still get plenty of playing time as a super sub, and either Gamel would be sent down or Hall (hopefully) would be DFA'd or traded (for tacos).

 

The question is, what type of prospects do the Brewers have to give up in order to make this deal? Also, what type of free agents are Davis and Lopez this off season if they continue their play?

[nate82]

I like this proposal the more I think about it. The Brewers can get two nice pieces without mortgaging their future. Davis would be the 2nd best starter on the team and Lopez would solve the lead off problem. McGehee would still get plenty of playing time as a super sub, and either Gamel would be sent down or Hall (hopefully) would be DFA'd or traded (for tacos).

 

The question is, what type of prospects do the Brewers have to give up in order to make this deal? Also, what type of free agents are Davis and Lopez this off season if they continue their play?

Davis probably won't get you anything. Lopez would be a type-b at best.