Armando Benitez On the Block

[wcswimmer712]

It has been reported that RP Armando Benitez is on the trading block.

 

His salary for 2007 according to Rotoworld www.rotoworld.com/content...LB&id=1991

 

is $7.6 million. Geoff Jenkins 2007 salary is $7million. This is just a thought, so don't jump all over me, buy what about a Benitez/Jenkins(+someone else?) trade? Maybe package Jenkins and Turnbow for Benitez and Jack Taschner?

[sbrylski]

It's been brought up before, though that was a few months ago, IIRC.

 

If he were LH, it would make a lot of sense. But now that Jenkins has seemly accepted a platoon role, I'd rather hang on to him than make that trade.

 

EDIT: Not to mention that I think Benitez lost it two years ago.

[GAME05]

i'm not sure i see it happening any more this offseason, but i could see that trade happening maybe three months in, depending on how Turnbow fares and how much we end up needing Jenkins in the outfield.

[PeaveyFury]

The Brewers need to ask themselves two questions:

 

1) Was Gabe Gross' 2006 for real, or just an aberration? If they think he's for real, he makes a much better (and younger) platoon partner for Mench as it is.

 

2) Are they comfortable with Aquino instead of Kolb and Villanueva instead of Helling as the only upgrades in a pretty bad bullpen from last year? If the answer here is no, then they need to explore this trade.

[dadofandrew]

They have never mentioned Gross as a possible platoon guy, in fact, he is mentioned more with Nix and Gwynn than the top 4.

[paul253]

This has been a huge pet peeve of mine all off season....but why is Laynce Nix even bieng talked about as an option. He was not good at all in Milwaukee last season, and has never had success in the majors. He's too old to be considered a prospect anymore, so why are we still talking about him?

 

As far a Benitez goes, I wouldnt mind having the guy, but i guess with him, Turnbow, Aquino, Cordero, and Cappellan, that seems like a lot of right handed power pitchers coming out of the bullpen. Is that a good thing?

[GAME05]

who's talking about Nix as an option? maybe some national writers, but i've never expected any of them to do any hard-core research to find out who our #4 and 5 outfielders are; they'll just throw out a name they recognize.

[paul253]

i think its more so national sportswriters, but i have seen some of the local ones do it too. I want to say even Jim Powell has mentioned it on his radio show

[hauser42]

This has been a huge pet peeve of mine all off season....but why is Laynce Nix even bieng talked about as an option. He was not good at all in Milwaukee last season, and has never had success in the majors. He's too old to be considered a prospect anymore, so why are we still talking about him?

 

Nix is an option because he is part of the 40 man roster like him or not he is part of the roster. He was considered a very good prospect and has battled injuries for the last couple of seasons. In my book he's as good an option as Gywnn Jr.

 

As far a Benitez goes, I wouldnt mind having the guy, but i guess with him, Turnbow, Aquino, Cordero, and Cappellan, that seems like a lot of right handed power pitchers coming out of the bullpen. Is that a good thing?

 

Pass on Armando all day. He has been on the block since last season. Marlins seem to be the team everyone thinks he is headed too. He's not reliable as a closer and has had numerous melt downs in that role before. He crashed in burned for the Mets years ago.

[GAME05]

if he came to the Brewers i sure wouldn't see him as a closer option. maybe as a set-up guy. but even if CoCo went down, with his command problems, i wonder if Aquino would get the next shot to close ahead of Benitez.

 

do you think, though, that adding Armando might hurt Capellan's development? giving him fewer chances to perform in pressure situations? as a rising star in the bullpen and even a future closing candidate, maybe we need to be pushing him more.

 

still, it's hard to figure anyone's drooling over the chance to get that guy. plus it would have to be Jenkins who is moved just to cover Armando's salary. and I still think Jenkins can give more to the team then Armando could.--of course if Turnbow blows up again maybe I'll change my mind.

[paul253]

Nix is an option because he is part of the 40 man roster like him or not he is part of the roster. He was considered a very good prospect and has battled injuries for the last couple of seasons. In my book he's as good an option as Gywnn Jr.

 

Laynce Nix is 26 years years old. He's never batted above .255 in the majors, despite having at least 100 at bats 3 different seasons. He has never even had an OBP of over .300...thats awful. Gwynn is 2 years younger.and had a higher batting average last season in the majors than Nix has ever had. Granted his OBP was also pathetic, but that can be contributed to his lack of power and his still learning to be more patient. He can also steal more bases than Nix can and is a better defender. He may not be much better of a prospect than Nix, but in my opinion he still has an upside whereas Nix does not.

[hauser42]

Laynce Nix is 26 years years old. He's never batted above .255 in the majors, despite having at least 100 at bats 3 different seasons. He has never even had an OBP of over .300...thats awful. Gwynn is 2 years younger.and had a higher batting average last season in the majors than Nix has ever had. Granted his OBP was also pathetic, but that can be contributed to his lack of power and his still learning to be more patient. He can also steal more bases than Nix can and is a better defender. He may not be much better of a prospect than Nix, but in my opinion he still has an upside whereas Nix does not.

 

So once a guy turns a certain age you should just throw him away?? Gwynn has upside in that he can chase balls down in the OF. He has not proven that he can get on base regularly to use his speed on the bases. And with no power what to speak of he is just a defensive player with a father that was a hall of famer.

 

Slight of what Nix might was produce is Gary Matthews Jr. he bounced around for a while and lately has been a fair player. I don't think Nix will ever have the season that Little Sarge did last year though.

[paul253]

So once a guy turns a certain age you should just throw him away?? Gwynn has upside in that he can chase balls down in the OF. He has not proven that he can get on base regularly to use his speed on the bases. And with no power what to speak of he is just a defensive player with a father that was a hall of famer.

 

Its not about the age...again, its the fact that he has had ample oppurtunity to show something in the majors and he hasnt. He has had chances in at least 4 seasons now, and has done nothing. Sure he may all of a sudden find it, but its much more common for someone to continue to play the way they have been than it is to magically turn it around. Again, I am not claiming Gwynn is going to be an all star center fielder for years to come, but in my opinion, he still has a chance to get better (how much better, i dont know). And that comment about his hall of fame father is just a blatant cheap shot people use to knock him down. People need to stop using it. Sure he may have a bit of an advantage growing up, but we're talking about the major leagues here. Teams arent going to simply give him a chance because his dad says to.

[hauser42]

He has had chances in at least 4 seasons now, and has done nothing. Sure he may all of a sudden find it, but its much more common for someone to continue to play the way they have been than it is to magically turn it around.

 

Those 4 years are not full years, he has been injured and in the minors. There are players in the past that figured it out later in their career. I'm not sure Nix is one of them, but I'm not writing him off yet.

 

 

And that comment about his hall of fame father is just a blatant cheap shot people use to knock him down. People need to stop using it. Sure he may have a bit of an advantage growing up, but we're talking about the major leagues here. Teams arent going to simply give him a chance because his dad says to.

 

It is not a cheap shot. I don't think a major league team would give him a shot because who is dad is. Although it would not suprise me if he doesn't put on a Padres uniform one day. My feeling is there are posters on this board and others that look at the name and think he will produce. If he was Joey Gathright or Nook Logan would we be thinking the same thing?

[fleehaw]

Just for fun's sake. Since the Marlins have interest in Benitez & the Giants should have some interest in Jenkins & the Brewers could use another lefty in the pen. How about:

 

Giants trade: Benitez & $$

Giants get: Jenkins & $$$$ (& maybe a throw in like Hendrickson)

 

Marlins get: Benitez & $$$$$

Marlins trade: Tankersley or Pinto

 

Brewers trade: Jenkins & $$$$

Brewers get: Tankersley OR Pinto

 

If the Marlins would part with either of those 2, then it could happen, however, I doubt they will.

[apereira2222]

While I would be ecstatic if that trade were to go down.

 

Jenkins isn't worth one of those guys.

[danzig6767]

I saw Benitez pitch 2-3 times last year and he was nowhere near the same guy he used to be.If i remember correctly,his fastball was in the 90-92 range,the gas throwing high 90's pitcher wasn't there.

 

Maybe all the years of pitching has taught him enough to still be good even with diminished velocity.Granted Jenkins is a declining player also,i just don't want people to think Benitez can still blow 97mph fastballs past hitters.

[reillymcshane]

Quote:

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Just for fun's sake. Since the Marlins have interest in Benitez & the Giants should have some interest in Jenkins & the Brewers could use another lefty in the pen. How about:

 

Giants trade: Benitez & $$

Giants get: Jenkins & $$$$ (& maybe a throw in like Hendrickson)

 

Marlins get: Benitez & $$$$$

Marlins trade: Tankersley or Pinto

 

Brewers trade: Jenkins & $$$$

Brewers get: Tankersley & Pinto

 

If the Marlins would part with either of those 2, then it could happen, however, I doubt they will.

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I read that the Giants asked for Tankersley in return for Benetiz and it was a no go. The Giants were offering to pay around $5 million of his salary too. Don't know about Pinto, but I think they said the Marlins were more interested in sending a lesser prospect, like Petit. But then the Giants didn't want to include as much cash in the deal, hence nothing happening. So, very unliikely they'd change their tune now if they said no a while back.

 

This was all a couple of weeks ago, so I hope I didn't mess up any details.

[Ennder]

Jenkins isn't hold enough to play for the Giants.

 

Lance Nix is a hard player to comment on because you can sum up his career with one word, Injured. His stats have no meaning if he somehow gets healthy.