2009 National League Rookie of the Year

[BrewCrewForever]

Casey has a real shot, all he has to do is stay consistent. Just don't fall off into a awful slump where is numbers really fall off.

[brewdude15]

Within the past couple weeks, this Garrett Jones fella has been tearing it up in Pittsburgh. 8 HR's in 15 games....but only 10 RBI's. All of his HR's have been solo shots. It's still good enough for 2nd or 3rd among NL Rookies, and he's only played 2 weeks worth of games. I'd keep an eye out for this guy...

 

Also, Tommy Hanson has looked pretty nice in his last couple starts. I think he could possibly be the front runner as of now.

[jjkoestler]

Yeah, hanson's got the national media exposure that mcgehee doesn't have as well

 

The media exposure and hype certainly makes Hanson the sexier ROY. His stats and filthy stuff will win it for him though.

[Yeti73]

The media also loves Rasmus and he's had a few webgems so I think he'll make a solid run. If Hanson hits the rookie wall, I think it will be Rasmus.

 

Is Burns eligible?

[CheezWizHed]

The biggest obstacle for McGehee to win the ROY is Counsell.... Shouldn't McGehee be the default 3B now?

[pretendastronaut]

If anyone saw the MLB Networks Mid-Season Report, everyone picked Rasmus for ROY. McGehee didn't even get an honorable mention, so he'd have a heck of a hurdle to climb, made nearly impossible now that he's not playing nearly every day with the Lopez trade.

[TooLiveBrew]

One thing to keep in mind is that the Lopez deal was made largely because of McGehee's & Counsell's knee WOAHs. So, imho, it's that Lopez was acquired *because* McGehee can't play much now, not that McGehee is losing out on PT because Melvin brought in Lopez.

[jnatro]

I vote Hanson.

[joepepsi]

What about McCutcheon for the Pirates? 293/349/443; 9SB/0-CS. Good numbers for slick fielding CF'er.

[JohnBriggs12]

I thinks it's down to:

 

Hitters:

 

Casey McGehee, Brewers

 

Geraldo Parra, D-Backs

 

Colby Rasmus, Cards

 

Chris Coghlan, Marlins

 

Dexter Fowler, Rockies

 

Andrew McCutcheon, Pirates

 

Pitchers:

 

Tommy Hanson, Braves

 

Randy Wells, Cubs

 

If they go with a pitcher, I think it has to be Wells. He has more starts, and a lower ERA than Hanson. If they go with a hitter, McGehee has a good shot as long if he can lead in HR, RBI and hit .300.

[pitchleague]

I concur with you. But, wow, what a sorry group of ROY candidates. Nobody has just been outstanding. Pablo Sandoval would win hands down had he not had too many at-bats last year.

[Scooter1027]

What about J.A. Happ? 10-4, 2.77 ERA on the first place Phils. Significantly more innings pitched than a guy like Hanson, more innings and a better K rate than Wells. I think he has a good chance.

[young guns]

I think Happ has the edge over the other pitchers and McCutchen has the edge over the other position players, but if Jones can keep putting up the power numbers and keep his avg. around the 290-300 range, if not higher, he might be able to steal the award. I'm sure Happ will get it because the Phils are in first place.

[Invader3K]

McGehee has had a tremendous month, and has to at least be in consideration. What do you all think? Does Casey have a realistic chance, or is it probably a pipe dream now?

[mletto157]

He has about as much of a chance as any of the position players... which based on the way a couple pitchers played this year - really isn't much.

[Tbadder]

Would you (or anyone) trade Casey for any of the other possible ROY candidates? If so, that person you want most is ROY. In other words, Casey, while I like him tons, is probably the least valuable ROY candidate. (I know I'm overstating this a bit, but you get the drift).

[DuWayne Steurer]

Would you (or anyone) trade Casey for any of the other possible ROY candidates? If so, that person you want most is ROY. In other words, Casey, while I like him tons, is probably the least valuable ROY candidate. (I know I'm overstating this a bit, but you get the drift).

ROY isn't based on potential. J.A. Happ is clearly a better long term prospect than McGehee, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's having a better season this year.

[endaround]

Seriously, I'd trade McGehee for Hanson in a second but McGehee has been more valuable this year.

[Patrick425]

Seriously, I'd trade McGehee for Hanson in a second but McGehee has been more valuable this year.

Really? Think so? Not sure that I agree with McGehee being more valuable than Hanson this year. Hard to compare pitching against hitting, but I'm going to give Hanson an edge over McGehee this year so far.

[endaround]

I'm not married to it, just picking out an illustrative name. McGehee was a WARP of 2.1 while Hanson is at 1.8. But even say Hanson pitched 40 fewer innings I'd still easily make the trade but wouldn't call Hanson ROY.

[Invader3K]

I like the idea someone had where they should have separate ROY awards for pitching and position players. Seems like it would bring a lot more clarity to the voting process, as it's just so hard to compare pitchers and hitters. Basically it's like debating apples and oranges.

 

That said, yes, I would trade McGehee for Hanson. I'd probably trade Gamel or maybe even Escobar for him too, but that's just because we need starting pitching so badly at this point.

[Patrick425]

I think Hanson's outing last night puts him another big step closer to ROY.

[pingman]

Hanson lost 4 wins via blown saves by his bullpen (per the Atlanta Journal Constitution)....10-3 2.65 looks great, but 14-3 would make him the favorite...

 

However I'd give it to Happ....10-4 2.77 is impressive, but you factor in that he's pitching in a hitting-biased ballpark (understatement!) & he's a key player on a division leading ball club is enough for me....

[Invader3K]

Yeah, I thought Hanson was going to get it easily earlier in the season, but he has scuffled someone and not gotten bullpen help, like you said.

 

I just think it's so hard to compare pitchers and hitters in terms of value and "contributions" that it would be nice if they would have separate awards.

[Postseason2006]

Hanson lost 4 wins via blown saves by his bullpen (per the Atlanta Journal Constitution)....

Did they mention his opening start that he received a no decision when he should've been saddled with another loss if it weren't for Carlos Giveitawayna?