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2009-06-01 Brewers (Suppan) at Marlins (Miller): 6:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 7-4]

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The Hall bashing has gone way too far IMO. Yes, Gamel is probably a better option at the plate against RHP, but Hall is still the better option vs. LHP. He's also much better in the field and should probably be in late in most games as a defensive sub. In this manner, I think Macha has been using him properly. Fans are underestimating how our improved defense over the last two years has helped our pitching staff...look at the huge play he made on Saturday. I think Mat will become a solid regular starter, but at this point he is still a huge question mark in the field.

 

Sorry, had to vent. Go Brewers.

I disagree...Hall is really bad. He should be in lineup against lefty today but batting 7th.
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At this point I wonder if Hall could hit off a tee?
I just got visions of that little kid that keeps smacking the tee and not the ball. Then the ball rolls 5 feet and the tee is on the ground.
Hahaha, and the way Hall has scuffled at the plate right now that is probably what it would look like.

Formerly BrewCrewIn2004

 

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How do you know that? McGehee wouldn't have stood a better chance with a runner on 2nd base there? There is no way to know that.

 

First of all, I said "probably", so I wasn't claiming to know alternate futures. This was my line of thinking:

 

runner at first, 2 out: 0 runs scored 86% of the time

runner at first, 2 out: 0 runs scored 78% of the time

 

And considering that McGehee is a below average hitter, the odds of scoring were even lower. The CS was much more costly. No one likes base running blunders but one that results in an extra out is generally much worse.

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How do you know that? McGehee wouldn't have stood a better chance with a runner on 2nd base there? There is no way to know that.

 

First of all, I said "probably", so I wasn't claiming to know alternate futures. This was my line of thinking:

 

runner at first, 2 out: 0 runs scored 86% of the time

runner at first, 2 out: 0 runs scored 78% of the time

 

And considering that McGehee is a below average hitter, the odds of scoring were even lower. The CS was much more costly. No one likes base running blunders but one that results in an extra out is generally much worse.

I know you said "probably". I'm assuming you meant runner at 2nd, 2 out 0 runs scored 78% of the time. That doesn't seem like much but considering how big of a deal probability is in baseball I think it is a big deal. Cameron has good speed and would likely score on a single. That 8% difference in probability in a round about way is the difference between having Kendall (.299 OBP) batting instead of Cameron (.379 OBP). The difference between a .250 hitter and a .300 hitter is huge, so why wouldn't an 8% more likely to score a run scenario not be?

 

I know you're very knowledgable I'm not looking to argue with you. Just found that to be an odd comment coming from you.

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Gamel crushes lefties in the minors...I'd play him fulltime now. Hall just lucked into a hit. Based on the first two sliders, there's no reason for the pitcher to stop throwing them to Hall.
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Why fly all the way to Miami, get dressed, stretch, play 5 1/2 innings to get a lead and THEN put in Julio? Just stay in Milwaukee an extra day and give the Marlins the win by forfeit. BA "Here comes Bill Castro, spotted something he didn't like." Was it Julio on the mound? That's what I spotted that I didn't like.
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