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2009-05-16 Brewers (Suppan) at Cardinals (Wainwright): 12:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 1-0]

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kudos to Macha on the bullpen usage again tonight. Yost would have left DiFelice in to face the lefty and that just isn't a good matchup vs a Lefty with that kind of power in a 1 run game.
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I might be considered a Yost apologist, but this pitching change is the difference between him and Macha. Yost would go off of the last two at-bats, where Macha goes on splits.

Actgually I think Yost would not make a change, but it'd be because it is so-and-so's inning.

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If we cant score runs in games like this in an inning like that we are not going to win the World Series. They better learn from this and not fail to score these FREE runs late in close games very often.
That kind of inning happens to every team; does that mean we aren't going to have a champion this year?
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If we cant score runs in games like this in an inning like that we are not going to win the World Series. They better learn from this and not fail to score these FREE runs late in close games very often.
That kind of inning happens to every team; does that mean we aren't going to have a champion this year?

 

You can only win in the playoffs if you can play small ball, we are not good at that and need to get better. Most teams dont score in those situations because they dont even try to play small ball which is stupid. The fact that we tried and failed is bad.

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You can only win in the playoffs if you can play small ball, we are not good at that and need to get better. Most teams dont score in those situations because they dont even try to play small ball which is stupid. The fact that we tried and failed is bad.

 

I think you need to watch the playoffs with a more critical eye if you really believe this, especially when the Yankees or Red Sox are in it. Bunting in that situation is only a marginal move to begin with but yeah if you are going to go with the bunt you need to execute it at a high rate.

 

The big problem with that inning was Kendall swinging at a ball that he had no chance of hitting to strike out more than anything.

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You can only win in the playoffs if you can play small ball, we are not good at that and need to get better. Most teams dont score in those situations because they dont even try to play small ball which is stupid. The fact that we tried and failed is bad.

I don't have a great memory, was "small ball" the way the Phillies did it?

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No, the problem was that he failed to bunt which is not difficult to do, the first pitch of the AB was easy to bunt, I could have bunted it to the 3rd basemen. Then counsell hit a SF which would be huge right now. Bunting in that situation with Kendall-Counsell-Weeks due up is not marginal at all, it is the ONLY good option you have. Would you really prefer to see kendall chop into a 5-3 doiubleplay there? Macha thought it was a bunting situation so I guess you know more than he does.
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No, the problem was that he failed to bunt which is not difficult to do, the first pitch of the AB was easy to bunt, I could have bunted it to the 3rd basemen. Then counsell hit a SF which would be huge right now. Bunting in that situation with Kendall-Counsell-Weeks due up is not marginal at all, it is the ONLY good option you have. Would you really prefer to see kendall chop into a 5-3 doiubleplay there? Macha thought it was a bunting situation so I guess you know more than he does.
I am a fan of pinch hitting for the Kendall and the Pitcher in that situation. We brought Gamel up why not use him.. He most likely gets a hit, K's, or hits a deep fly to right so either way you are not worse off and then have counsell up next.
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I didn't say it wasn't a bunting situation, I said it is a marginal gain so you need to execute it at a high rate. In a situation like that you have something like a 10% chance to fail to get a runner to 3rd with the bunt, you are giving up about 25% chance to get on base, you are giving up something like 20% chance to score a run, you are giving up an out. You are saving something like a 15% of a double play. Those numbers are extremely arguable but the bunt isn't a no brainer.

 

Kendall failed his first attempt at the bunt, it happens. It is nowhere near as easy as you make it sound. The 2nd strike came with a huge gap in the IF as one guy was covering 2B for a pickoff play so he took his shot at an RBI single instead of the bunt. At that point he swings at a terrible pitch that he has no hope of hitting and strikes out. Out of that sequence the biggest issue is the swinging at a horrible pitch in my opinion.

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