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I know this is WAY in advance. Yet, I don't believe this team is even playing well yet.

 

My guess is even if they improve or decrease in performance slightly, they will be in a playoff chase. The Brewers have very interesting balance. Not many stars, but above-average or emerging folks in many places.

 

Assuming they are well in the hunt at trade time, who do you trade and who might you target? We're a few months in advance and the names will change over time, but it's an interesting conversation.

 

SORRY....wrong forum

 

I'm wondering what TGwynn, Jr. and Capellan might net?

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Not much, to be honest. I would guess if the Crew needs to make a move for a specific need, they will focus on lower levels and areas of strength...A ball and lower, and probably 1B, 2B, and SS.

 

Also, they have a lot of decent pitching in AAA, hopefully, some of it will still be there to deal.

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This probably would be better in the trade rumors section, but i'll throw my opinion in here before it gets moved. The Brewers do have solid to good starters all over and a depth that I have never seen in my life as a Brewer fan.

 

The two names you threw out there Gwynn and Cappellan probably wouldn't end up netting anything that would be better than anything the Brewers currently have. Cappellan's value is near zero and I don't see it dramatically improving. Gwynn Jr's value is something that might fluctuate greatly, but for his value to improve to a point where the Brewers to get good talent in return he would need to get significant time starting in the ML's, and he would need to be very successful to silence the doubters. Those two names would bring in a relief pitcher of some talent, nothing special. (obviousally IMO)

 

That being said I do think that the Brewers would/will be active at the trade deadline. Some areas I think the Brewers will look to add talent:

 

RELIEF PITCHERS - every team will be after quality arms out of the pen, probably best to try and improve from within, as the trade value will probably be outragous

 

BACKUP 1ST & 3RD - Graffy won't be a Brewer if/when Braun gets called up, Counsel then would be strictly backup 2nd/SS, A veteran Scott Spiezio type would be great

 

then the only potential I see for a major deal

 

OUTFIELDER - Halls progression kind of determines if this becomes a possibility. If Hall needs to become a 3rd baseman, then a major deal for a CF becomes a possibility, Braun would then be penciled in as a LFer next year (at some point) Baldelli and Crawford are obvious names that might be possible although most likely to expensive (crazy D-ray demands) One of the rent-a-players might make sense Cameron, Hunter, Ichiro, Jones.

 

I would think that the Brewers will try and move an outfielder or two, maybe a pitcher (villenueva or bush in a mega deal for outfielder), and any minor leaguer not named Gallardo, Inman, or Braun

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Yeah, the Brewers will basically be in a perfect position in terms of position player depth once Braun comes up. Graffanino/Counsell is just awesome as far as back-up utility IF's go.

 

I don't see them making any moves to add players for this season (at this time, of course there is always the threat of injury). I could see them trading for a minimal part, like a second LOOGY or something, but that's doubtful (maybe they'll pick up Cormier - he got DFA'd).

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The more I think about it, I think Gabe Gross might be dealt at the deadline, if all stay healthy. A team might look at Gabe as a cheap, athletic corner OF with some ceiling, and give away a high paid vet for Gabe and a hard thrower from AAA.
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Can we take on salary at the deadline? I thought we were already running over budget. Then again, Miller Park has become the hottest ticket in town, so I could also see a means of heightening payroll. Torii Hunter perhaps?
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The more I think about it, I think Gabe Gross might be dealt at the deadline, if all stay healthy. A team might look at Gabe as a cheap, athletic corner OF with some ceiling, and give away a high paid vet for Gabe and a hard thrower from AAA.

 

I'd really hate to see that. Surely they're not going to go into next season with the Jenkins/Mench platoon again, are they?

 

I think Gross would be an excellent bat to have on your bench in a possible playoff series, though it's too early to be thinking that way.

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Surely they're not going to go into next season with the Jenkins/Mench platoon again, are they?

 

Jenkins is a free agent after this season. Someone will probably pay him more than Milwaukee will want to spend. Is Mench also a free agent?

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Jenkins is a free agent after this season. Someone will probably pay him more than Milwaukee will want to spend. Is Mench also a free agent?

 

I thought there was some sort of option for Jenkins. However as far as i know, Mench is a FA.

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as good as menchkind have been this year, jenks at 9 and mench at 5 is beyond insanity for a platoon in LF next year...

 

for that kind of cash, the brewers ought to find someone better...for LF or anywhere...

 

gross and rottino would play average to above average in LF for less than a million...

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I think a number of things (imagine that?)

 

If the Crew is truely in the race at the Deadline, they absolutely need to add an arm or two for the bullpen, and ideally a great bat for the line-up (I'm talking about a Carlos Lee size bat at the very least, someone to play RF or 3B if Braun isn't ready yet)

 

Now, Braun and Gallardo might provide the bat and arm but that is a stretch to expect from such young players on their first trip through the show, and Gallardo is a starter not a reliever.

 

Ask yourself, are you comfortable with Matt Wise as your only 7th inning guy in a playoff series? Are you comfortable with only Dessens and Villeneuva as your middle inning guys in a playoff series?

 

I think Al is right: Gross might be a trade possibility. A package of Gross, Capellan, Zach Jackson and a single A pitcher might bring a Big Bat or a few of those guys might bring a top bullpen arm

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I don't think the Twins are going to be in it this year, and they have a number of good bullpen arms.

 

For better or worse, the Twins are stuck on Joe Nathan, so Juan Rincon will have to be dealt pretty soon as he starts to get expensive. He could be had for a very good group of prospects.

 

I'd also be more than willing to look at Matt Guerrier, or Silva as a reliever.

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This site says Mench is a free agent after 2009. However, I believe he'll be eligible to declare free agency after 2008. He's definitely won't be a free agent this year.

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gross and rottino would play average to above average in LF for less than a million...

 

They would top out as an averag LF unless Gross has a huge year. When did Vinny become a prospect the Brewers could count on?

 

 

During last night games ESPN announcers stated that Mark A is not opposed to adding salary if this team is in the playoff hunt. It was also mentioned that they have some wiggle room under the budget they have set up.

 

Could use a backup corner guy with some pop. 7th inning is Matt Wise's until he proves he can not handle the role.

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7th inning is Matt Wise's until he proves he can not handle the role.

 

'Cept Wise has proven that he cannot pitch well in back to back days, and certainly not 3 days in a row. I don't want the Brewers to be caught down the stretch or in the playoffs without someone in addition to Wise.

 

Having said that, if they do have "wiggle room", I prefer they use a huge chunk of that to sign Cordero beyond this year, if possible

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Vinny doesn't really have the bat to play everyday, but he can hit as he has done everywhere along the way. Being a somewhat more agressive hitter I think works better as a bench bat then it does as a starter and if you give Vinny the platoon advantage most of the time his numbers will look pretty good. He really projects well as a back-up guy because there isn't really any projection involved can play multiple positions and seems to have no qualms doing whatever it takes to play in MLB without the king size ego where he desrves to play everyday.
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Cept Wise has proven that he cannot pitch well in back to back days, and certainly not 3 days in a row. I don't want the Brewers to be caught down the stretch or in the playoffs without someone in addition to Wise.

 

He can go two days in a row. During the playoffs this is not a problem since there is days off in between games. Stretch run might be tight at the end of the season, but with a 40 man rsoter the last month Spurling, Capellan, Aquino and other guys can go out and eat up innings

 

Having said that, if they do have "wiggle room", I prefer they use a huge chunk of that to sign Cordero beyond this year, if possible

 

Totally agree would love to see Coco signed for a couple years to stay a Brewer.

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Wise has proven that he cannot pitch well in back to back days, and certainly not 3 days in a row.

 

I've heard this before, but what is this based on? Has there ever been a quote from Matt or Yost about him not preferring to go back to back days?

 Career 2005 2006 Rest PA OPS PA OPS PA OPS ------ --- ---- -- ---- -- ----- 0 Days 55 .666 27 .379 9 1.125 1 Day 161 .637 47 .244 68 .900 2 Days 172 .828 84 .831 39 .720 3 Days 129 .598 46 .578 22 .377 4 Days 227 .661 27 .413 7 .857

Last season he struggled a bit without rest, but it was just the opposite in 2005. For his career, he looks pretty balanced.

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