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The MLB network had a list of 5 games including this one that were 1-0 with the pitcher hitting a home run, dating back to 1965.

 

I was also at a game where Maddux out-dueled Hershiser 1-0 and drove in the only run, but it was not a home run. I guess the bottom line is that a performance like that is impressive and rare, but not unique.

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From the Elias Sports Bureau: Gallardo was only the third pitcher in major league history to win a game 1-0 while recording at least 10 strikeouts and hitting a home run. The other pitchers to do that were Hall of Famers: the Yankees' Red Ruffing, on Aug. 13, 1932 in Washington (12 strikeouts) and the White Sox's Early Wynn, on May 1, 1959 against the Red Sox (14 strikeouts).

 

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The other pitchers to do that were Hall of Famers: the Yankees' Red Ruffing, on Aug. 13, 1932 in Washington (12 strikeouts) and the White Sox's Early Wynn, on May 1, 1959 against the Red Sox (14 strikeouts). http://tinyurl.com/dxsts5
When ESPN showed a graphic with that information last night, the S.O. said, "You know what those two teams have in common?" then "Actually, don't look it up. I'm not going to say anything more about it." But the 1932 Yankees and 1959 White Sox do have something in common, besides the Ruffing and Wynn feats, and I'm not going to say any more about it either.
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From the Elias Sports Bureau: Gallardo was only the third pitcher in major league history to win a game 1-0 while recording at least 10 strikeouts and hitting a home run.

 

That is simply incredible. Sure, it's basically setting arbitrary thresholds... but still. Pretty amazing performance from Yo, and since I know what hawing is getting at, I'm not going to say any more about it either. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

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On September 10th, 2008, CC Sabathia had a heck of a pitching and batting performance. (Box Score)

 

I was at the game, so I remember it well. The Brewers ended up winning 3-2.

CC pitched all 9 innings and hit a home run in the 3rd inning.

 

It wasn't as good as Gallardo's game - but it was still great.

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But isn't it scary to think how good we would have been with Sabathia, Sheets and a healthy Gallardo last season? Scary.

Correct. Which is why I was disapointed that we traded some really nice prospects for 1/2 year of pitching. I know that 1/2 year was great but right now it is really limiting our options as far as being able to bring in another quality young arm long term. I think management looked at it as being Sheets last year so they needed to make a run...but what they failed to take into account is that Yovanni would replace Sheets and they would have just as good of team the following year.
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We still have plenty of prospects to trade right now if we wanted to take that gamble again. Yo replacing Sheets was and still is anything from a sure thing. Its only been two starts and he has looked better than Sheets and as good as CC in both of them, but its hard to say definitively that he has replaced anyone yet. Gambling on the future is far from a sure thing, as was the midseason trade for CC. That was one of if not the best trades in MLB history with the way he pitched, so I have a hard time saying anything but positive things about it.
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That is not true. We do not have many prospects that would be able to bring in a top young pitcher like the combo of Laporta/Brantley would have. Gamel would but IMO we need him to replace what we are going to lose from Fielder on offense. Escobar would bring a decent young pitcher but I am not sure we would want to trade him either. He is the only middle infield prospect close to the majors.

It has been more than 2 starts for Yo, but you missed my point. The point is within reason Gallardo projects to be a top of the rotation pitcher.

I would disagree it was one of the best trades in MLB history. Actually I completely disagree....but then again I am more of a long term thinker.

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That is not true. We do not have many prospects that would be able to bring in a top young pitcher like the combo of Laporta/Brantley would have. Gamel would but IMO we need him to replace what we are going to lose from Fielder on offense. Escobar would bring a decent young pitcher but I am not sure we would want to trade him either. He is the only middle infield prospect close to the majors.

 

It has been more than 2 starts for Yo, but you missed my point. The point is within reason Gallardo projects to be a top of the rotation pitcher.

 

I would disagree it was one of the best trades in MLB history. Actually I completely disagree....but then again I am more of a long term thinker.

 

But we do have the prospects to get that deal done. I meant two amazing starts. His two starts before the last two were less than spectacular, fairly average actually. Obviously Gallardo projects to be a top of the rotation pitcher. So did Mark Rogers. My point was that projections and reality are not always one in the same and just because some projects to be something does not mean it is a guarantee that they will turn into that (which is what you said was the main thing the brewers front office neglected to think about). Trades like the Sabathia trade are inherently short term. Thats the nature of them. The gamble that teams take is that half a season of a player and giving up prospects will help them in the short term. This is exactly what happened. And I am assuming most would agree that it did that better than any of us could have expected and better than any other similar trade in the history.

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You are comparing Rogers to Gallardo? A terrible comparison. Roger's showed his potential at the high school level. It is tough to project anyone until they play in AA. Gallardo dominated minor leagues and then for the most part has been great in the majors (his ERA going into this year was 3.02 in 134.1 innings). Even with that, Roger's hasn't worked because he has been injured.

 

I realize trades like that are for the short term. Unless you are getting an absolute steal, I do not like that idea at all. Long term, the brewers are highly dependent on their farm system. IMO the value has to be ridiculous over 0.5 years for it to be worth losing 6+ years of good value. Just because a prospect is blocked, doesn't mean you should trade him for short term value...especially when the farm system is severely lacking pitching. That is my point.

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I feel like I need to drive my own head through a wall any time someone questions the Sabathia trade at this point. Are we just supposed to hold onto all our prospects forever, regardless of what trades come up, just in case they might become a superstar, or some better trade might come up down the line? I wouldn't trade last season for anything. It was worth it...there's no guarantees that Laporta or Brantley will become stud everyday players anyway.
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I never said we should have hung onto Laporta and Brantly forever. In fact, I have no problem with them being traded. I just don't like the fact they were traded for 0.5 years of pitching. Getting a pitcher that we would have had for 3+ years would have been my prefered scenario.
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If we had not traded for CC last year I would not consider Brantley a top 5 prospect at this point. Escobar, LaPorta, Gamel, Jeffress, Lawrie and Salome are probably above him. Cain, Lucroy and Green were on the same level as him.

 

Yeah losing LaPorta stinks but I think he is a future DH or at best a 1B, Gamel is most likely our future 1B at this point. Simply a case of a blocked player. I am very glad we made the trade and got the playoff out of the way. I just wish the team hadn't tanked september so we went into the playoffs so cold, last years team was as good as the Phillies and they won the world series, just a matter of going cold at the wrong time.

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While there's no guarantee I feel as good about LaPorta as I do Gamel... have you even looked at his stats this season? He'll hit and hit very well for 6+ years in Cleveland. In terms of WAR, that's a very lopsided deal for Cleveland... 6 years of Laporta alone will net more WAR than CC did for the crew in 2/3 of a single season. If Brantley becomes a starter it slants even heavier towards CLE, very simple math.

 

The only thing that would make the deal even is the unquantifiable aspect of a playoff appearance and what happens with the 2 draft picks if they ever hit the majors. How any of us feels about the playoff appearance is a matter of personal opinion, it matters very little to me... the best thing about it is that I don't have to hear about '82 anymore. The draft picks are impossible to quantify, revisionist history will bear that out in time.

 

Instead of telling us how we're wrong because the Brewers made the playoffs, how about accepting there is a legit point to the other side of the argument even if you don't agree with it? I don't tell you're wrong because the playoff appearance meant a great deal to you, why crap on us because the Mets collapsed and the Crew rode Sabathia home? The Brewers were a game away from sitting home and how would the Sabathia deal look then? Your continual narrow view of that trade makes me want to put my head through a wall.

 

edit. As good as the Phillies? Maybe with Sheets, but it wasn't even close without him and cold position players. The playoffs are not a "crap shoot". It's about match ups and we simply didn't match up with an overworked Sabathia, Sheets out, and Yo coming back from injury. I'm not going to play the "what if" game with the defensive misplays because the bottom line is the defense and pitching stunk, and the crew was rolled easily.

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