Pirates, Kremblas To Be Tough on Uniform Code, Discipline; Latest: Brewers Do Their Part

[Mass Haas]

Discipline no minor matter -- Development director's marching orders include pants up, socks high

 

Interesting concept, we'll see if other organizations follow...

[alorrigan]

I'm all for rules to create disciplined players but telling them how to wear their pants is going a little too far. From reading the article I guess the players have to earn the right to wear their pants the way they want to, which I think is great. But if that's not the case your just going to have a bunch of disgruntled players who can't wait to get out of the organization. Is the way you wear your pants a big deal. No way. But when I played in college we had rules about the littlest details like this and it just doesn't do what it is intended to do.

[Brian the Automator]

Seems like one of those ideas that is good on the surface, but in practice has bad unintended consequences. The players that generally wear their clothes in an unorthodox fashion are generally the players that are good. I don't think it's at all attractive to free agents of quality.... (not that this really poses a problem to Pittsburgh)

[JoeHova]

Yes, telling grown men how to dress, down to the height of their socks, generally doesn't go over well. People like to have a modicum of freedom. Even if a guy likes to wear his socks high, I bet he'll chafe at being forced to do so.

[jgrusz]

I believe other teams already have rules like this for their Minor Leaguers, the Cardinals come to mind.

[MTBrew]

I really support this. There are a number of teams/organizations that were very successful doing it their "way".

The Dodgers and Orioles of the 60's, 70's and 80's come to mind.

I guess it could be argued that this is passe' in todays world. With players believing they are bigger than the team (and even the game) and being allowed to act that way.

Thank goodness for minor league baseball, as I have completely given up on the majors.

[endaround]

Yeah who do those Pirates think they are with those big afros sticking up under their caps?

[mothershipconnection]

I have to wear a big goofy ID badge at work and I don't think this is any worse. Yeah, it's nit-picky, but I don't mind employers making reasonable uniform rules.

[TheCrew07]

It doesn't bother me at all. The NFL has very strict uniform guidelines and their players manage it okay. This is about promoting "team", and who's employer doesn't have a dress or uniform policy? Have we truly reached a place where individualism is to be championed over the team? I'd much rather see less individualism and more team in every sport. I grow weary of celebrating routine plays and the general "look at me" way that many players in all sports carry themselves in the sports world today. I like Braun a great deal but his home antics wear thin with me the same way as when Barnett makes a tackle 8 yards down field and does his little routine, or players who have a TD dance...

[JoeHova]

It's not about celebrating the individual over the team, it's about treating people like adults. If you work at a place where they dictate the height of your socks, I feel sorry for you. It's not the same as requiring people to wear a suit or something, teams already do exactly that with the uniform. It's like not allowing people to wear a double-breasted suit or shoes with laces or something.

[TheCrew07]

Ya UPS drivers really have it rough...

[JoeHova]

Ya UPS drivers really have it rough...

 

I don't understand what you are saying. Every rule is good? If a team's goal is to look as dopey as UPS guys, I guess Indianapolis will have accomplished that.

[TheCrew07]

I don't understand why you think the employee has more rights than the employer. This is making a mountain out of an ant hill.

[logan82]

You can't leave to find an equivalent job if you don't like the dress code. You can, well in a normal economy, with many other jobs. I really don't see the big deal though. Many guys change the way they wear their socks if they have a bad week.

[davego]

Only pick the rules that you really want to enforce, and some greater good is found in their application. I haven't learned much in life, but I know this. Hope this is worth the time and effort for Frank.

[Mass Haas]

From Buck Rogers, Huntsville GM, to the Stars' fans:

All Milwaukee Brewers teams will all wear pants with 28 inch inseams. A lot of teams allow the players to wear their pant legs up or down, and if you watch SportsCenter you'll see some of those pant legs that have gotten stylish, i.e., baggy. Congratulations to the Brewers for bringing back the traditional look that will have their teams looking like baseball players again.

[Tbadder]

What a sad, sad state of affairs. discipline, respect, team, come from the way people do their jobs--not from how they look. How one looks is merely social convention (which is neither good nor bad) or the expression of people with power to make others do their will. The first lessons that anyone learns in this life is that you can't judge a book by it's cover. Unfortunately many, if not most, don't believe this. Now if the way one looks interfers with the way someone does their job, then by all means rules have to be set. If I work hard, help others succeed, sacrifice for the greater good, then what I look like should be of little consequence. The 28 inch rule is ridiculous unless it can be truly proved to make me a better hitter, fielder, catcher, runner, or thrower. It might. But lets see data, otherwise it's just some guy who likes to exert power because he can or because he "thinks" it builds something it doesn't. Adults, when treated like adults, will respond. And those that don't will be fired anyways and it will have to do with performance and not the color of their hair or the kind of tie they wear. Sheer silliness.

[RyDogg66]

I dont know if I would agree that it is silliness considering the definition of the word uniform...

 

1. Always the same, as in character or degree; unvarying.

2. Conforming to one principle, standard, or rule; consistent.

3. Being the same as or consonant with another or others.

4. Unvaried in texture, color, or design.

[pete]

Those are the adjective. Here is the noun: the distinctive clothing worn by members of the same organization or body or by children attending certain schools.

[homer]

For years IBM made their male employees wear white dress shirts and solid color ties. It was part of their image/brand whatever you want to call it. I don't see a reason why this should be looked at any other way. The team wants to represent themselves a certain way.

[davego]

I'm hoping that .OPS might be the image developed...except it's for a division opponent, so maybe not.

[BrewCrewRising]

Apparently the new discipline will include the minor leaguers not being be able to accumulate fungus on their shower shoes either. If they get to the show and win 20, they will be allowed to let the fungus grow on their shower shoes.

[Patrick425]

I'd like to see MLB adopt a uniform policy in general. Everyone on the same team should wear their pants the same way. To those who say that players should not be forced to dress one way or another, do you think a line should be drawn somewhere? What if players started wearing their pants half way down there butts with there underwear showing? Would that be acceptable? Where do you draw the line? Also, when did lefties develop this affliction in regards to not being able to put there cap on straight? Lefties prior to around 1990 never had an issue with this.

 

But then again...I'm just an old curmudgeon.

[silversurferr]

Well, it is called a uniform....

[TooLiveBrew]

I really don't understand what this arbitrary rule about pants & socks is intended to accomplish. If there were a point to it, I guess I wouldn't think it was idiotic.

 

'Cuz I said so!' is an awful reason unless you're a parent.