Trading post question

[KCBrewerfan34]

Jut curious why is it allowed to sell bobbles at market price but you can't get going rate for Brewer tickets on this board, I mean if I offered opening day seats at $5 over face would anyone be upset? Just wondering out loud

 

 

 

GO BREW!!!

[berniebrewer4life]

Market price on the SGAs is all you have to go by(concidering there was no price for them from the start). As for selling tickets over face, the heads of this board have stated many a time that they do no want people posting in the Trading post area to make a profit, but to help fellow brewer fans out. Not to mention that scalping tickets(which is any price over the face value) is illegal in Wisconsin.

[Blancofan1]

I totally agree with the policy on this site to not sell tickets for more than face value, but it actually isn't illegal to scalp tickets in the state of Wisconsin unless they are tickets to State Fair (It actually says State Fair, I'm not kidding.) While many venues prohibit scalping, it isn't against any state laws.

[berniebrewer4life]

I totally agree with the policy on this site to not sell tickets for more than face value, but it actually isn't illegal to scalp tickets in the state of Wisconsin unless they are tickets to State Fair (It actually says State Fair, I'm not kidding.) While many venues prohibit scalping, it isn't against any state laws.

yea i mispoke, some cities don't allow it(i believe madison is one, and i thought Milwaukee was as well), but not the state itself.

[ewizabeff]

I also agree that this board should only be used to "help others out." There are plenty of other outlets where you can sell your tickets over face value, where there are precautions in place to protect buyers and sellers. If someone backs out of a deal on brewerfan, you're out of luck. That won't happen on StubHub or eBay

[BREWCREW5]

Mark me down for wishing tickets could be sold for more than face value on here. At times, I am willing to pay more than face value for tickets and you arent going to find them for sale on here. With the extra "fees" that mlb charges, you pay more than face when you buy off of brewers.com anyways...I digress.

[1992casey]

Brewers.com fees would be part of face value. It's certainly fair to recoup those.

[sgtcluels]

I'm on the "we are a community, we don't screw each other" thing. MLB offers stubhub, so if you want to make a profit just sell it there. This is a fan site, not an auction site.

[temke]

if you are selling opening day tickets for $5 over face, i will take them! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[bigjase]

It would be nice to be able to offer tickets for what you are looking for, but I'm fine with not being able to do it. What bothers me is when people get upset because you sell your tickets on eBay or stubhub for over face value because "you should only sell them to Brewer fans." I would rather sell them to a Brewer fan, but we can't offer them to Brewer fans here for over face value.

[bani1717]

Just for the record, scalping is not illegal in the state of Wisconsin or in any cities in Wisconsin. However, there may be some sort of city ordinances forbidding any sale of tickets within X amount of distance of a sporting venue. For example, it's technically illegal within 500 feet of the Bradley Center. It's technically illegal anywhere on Miller Park grounds except in the designated "resale zone" (there it's only allowed under face, although that rule is hardly enforced). At the Kohl Center, it's illegal to either sell tickets over face or to sell them in general (not sure which) inside the barriers in the walkways around the edge of the grounds.

 

In any case, I don't really have an opinion one way or the other as far as selling tickets over face on this site. I have no problem with people selling tickets over face on ebay, stubhub, etc.

[berniebrewer4life]

Just for the record, scalping is not illegal in the state of Wisconsin or in any cities in Wisconsin. However, there may be some sort of city ordinances forbidding any sale of tickets within X amount of distance of a sporting venue.

I've had cops in Madison tell me it was illegal to sell for over face value in the city. They might have been lieing, but i always took them for telling the truth. Oh well, good to know now!

[mattsr0625]

does it matter? there is a larger market on eBay and you will probably get more money there then you would on here. Why can't you start a thread with a link stating bf net member selling tix on eBay. That way we know you are selling them. Maybe that's not allowed but I won't hurt to ask.

[bani1717]

I've had cops in Madison tell me it was illegal to sell for over face value in the city. They might have been lieing, but i always took them for telling the truth. Oh well, good to know now!

Like I said, I believe it's illegal within some distance of the Kohl Center, and possibly Camp Randall too. One thing I know for sure though is that there are ALWAYS scalpers out selling tickets over face on the street corner for UW basketball games, football games, and hockey games. I have even seen some of the same guys selling reserved seats for the WIAA state basketball and wrestling tournaments for over face value.

[Blunt36]

I've got a quick question regarding face value for tickets, and am wondering what is considered face value regarding season tickets which are sold at a discount. Is the actual price printed on the ticket considered face value, or would the actual price paid be face? For example, when buying a full season package under the "terrace treat" package the Brewers have been offering, price per ticket per game comes out to $5. Price stated on tickets is $14 though, and that is what someone would pay through the box office buying single game seats. If someone offers terrace treat tickets for $14 each would that be frowned upon or against the rules?

[ILuvDaBush]

I would think face value is face value. I could probably gwet Pirate tix for $1 per ticket but the face would say $12+. Face value is whatever is written BY THE TEAM on the face.

[Fatter than Joey]

Face value is whatever is written BY THE TEAM on the face.

 

I don't disagree with what you said -- however, it is my understanding if I went and bought a $50 ticket that had various charges associated with it -- you could sell that ticket here on BF.net for "face value"+"fees"....

 

If you bought 4 $50 tickets I bet there would be at least $25 in ticketmaster type fees...

[berniebrewer4life]

Face value is whatever is written BY THE TEAM on the face.

 

I don't disagree with what you said -- however, it is my understanding if I went and bought a $50 ticket that had various charges associated with it -- you could sell that ticket here on BF.net for "face value"+"fees"....

 

If you bought 4 $50 tickets I bet there would be at least $25 in ticketmaster type fees...

Casey answered your question a few posts up, you are correct.

 

"Brewers.com fees would be part of face value. It's certainly fair to recoup those. "

[mothershipconnection]

I think it boils down to there being 2,000 places to safely buy tickets while there it's not as easy to find a place to trade Brewers memorabilia with fellow fans. This forum is obviously great for many members, but obviously could be a beacon to unscrupulous hucksters and people using this as a no-fee ebay.

[TURBO]

I STILL think we need a seperate forum for tickets as opposed to memorabilia and bobbles...

 

It only makes sense to seperate the two...

[KCBrewerfan34]

I completely agree, setup a separate forum for tickets, don't post or don't view it if you disagree, it also will increase the traffic to site. Everyone wins!!!

[mothershipconnection]

I completely agree, setup a separate forum for tickets, don't post or don't view it if you disagree, it also will increase the traffic to site. Everyone wins!!!

 

You guys can set up ad-supported message boards easily. I do not speak for Brian, but I'm pretty sure he's not into setting up a ticket brokerage site and even less into paying for page views for it. The "if you disagree" part just won't work, as admins and mods will have to deal with whatever nonsense would take place there. I see no reason to risk such nonsense when our members have so many other places to buy and sell tickets.

[TURBO]

it was just a suggestion to seperate the bobble trading from the ticket stuff.

 

there are times when this forum is almost all "I need tickets," so a seperate forum makes sense.

 

I'm not trying to cause a commotion...

[1992casey]

Brewerfan has historically tried to resist setting up too many forums. There comes a point where numerous forums become unmanageable; I'm talking from a member standpoint rather than a moderator standpoint.

 

I know that won't necessarily please everyone. One former member was especially put out when Brian refused to set up an Anti-Statistical Analysis forum. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

One thing we're not concerned about is bringing traffic to the Trading Post. It's designed as a perk for members--that's the main reason it's hidden from non-members. In this case, bigger isn't necessarily better.

[Paul77]

... the Trading Post. It's designed as a perk for members--that's the main reason it's hidden from non-members. In this case, bigger isn't necessarily better.

Agreed. There are very few websites that I feel totally comfortable dealing, trading with and buying stuff from others like I do here. We're a smaller group, most of us have dealt with each other in some capacity before and no one wants to ruin a reputation with so many people.

 

As for a separate ticket forum, I'll join the camp that is happy the way things are.