Doug searching for next year's closer now

[rickh150]

Since Coco probably will command more than the Brewers are willing to spend, it makes good sense for Doug to get a big time set-up man or closer now. Not only will this help the pen for this year's pennant run, it will also allow the Brewers to have a nice pen for next year once Coco leaves for greener pastures. Also, the Brewers would have to pay through the nose to get a good closer on the open market this off-season. I'm also guessing that they're not too comfortable with any one else in their system to close for next year.

 

I'm not surprised about the Otsuka trade talks. He has two more years of arby left and has experience. Chad Cordero from Washington also makes a lot of sense to me. He also has 2 years left in arbitration after this year.

 

I'd imagine that Tony Gwynn is the trade bait, maybe along with an arm from a crowded, yet talented AAA.

[PeaveyFury]

Cordero would be a very nice acquisition if we've soured on Otsuka due to injury.

[apereira2222]

Apparently the Nationals have been asking the world for him, meaning top prospects. Tony Gwynn jr. for Otsuka? Absolutely. But someone like Villanueva or Gallardo is obviously not worth it. Hopefully the Nationals eventually come to their senses because Cordero would be a nice piece for the stretch run.

[UWRyan428]

Rafael Soriano comes to mind, as he had success this year with Wickman out and would fit the criteria outlines earlier of doing set-up and then closing next year, though I think T-Bow deserves another shot, much like CoCo got.

[endaround]

My guess is that for Cordero they'll want a similar return that they got last year for worse relief pitchers. IE a cheap major league starter plus. That deal might ruin their trades going forward like the Kazmir deal ruined the DRays trades.

[recte44]

Grant Balfour is already here.

[jschris]

I second the Balfour nomination. He appears to be all the way back from injury and then some. He's certainly earned a shot at it anyway.

[Brian the Automator]

[ I second the Balfour nomination. He appears to be all the way back from injury and then some. He's certainly earned a shot at it anyway. ]

 

I would have a problem going blindly with a player as our closer solution just based off minor league stats. If I were Doug, I would need to trot him out against several teams in the league to see how he handles.

[jschris]

I would have a problem going blindly with a player as our closer solution just based off minor league stats. If I were Doug, I would need to trot him out against several teams in the league to see how he handles.

 

Without question, though to be fair Turnbow didn't have a whole lot of major league closer innings when he was handed the job (I know--different situtation with the 2005 team not having as high expectations next year's team does). That's why I'd like to see Balfour up this year yet.

[monty57]

The Brewers have several starters (Vargas, Bush and Cappy), who could be dealt due to the presence of Yo and Villy. They're all proven major leaguers who still have arbitration years remaining, and the Nationals will be looking for young players and those that will be "under their control" for a while.

 

Would the Nationals bite on a deal that included one of these pitchers, and would it be enough return for the Brewers to get Cordero?

[bsglorydays]

Would the Nationals bite on a deal that included one of these pitchers, and would it be enough return for the Brewers to get Cordero?

 

Cappy would be for sure, I gotta believe. Any of those 3 starting pitchers would instantly become Washington's top starter.

[dadofandrew]

Cordero for Bush or a package including Vargas/Parra might make some sense in both the short and long-term. There's little doubt Claudio would be a top guy in DC as well.

[monty57]

Yeah, I'd assume Cappy would be the least likely to be traded. My statment of "would it be enough return for the Brewers to get Cordero" is poorly written, and should have read "would the Brewers be giving up too much if all they got back is Cordero?"

 

I see Cordero as a dominant reliever who could help our bullpen this year and be our closer for the next few years at a much cheaper price than Coco. I also believe that Villeneuva is better than Vargas and probably better than Bush.

 

If we could get C. Cordero for Bush or Vargas straight up, we would be able to insert Villy into the starting lineup (he needs more innings this year, while Yo needs to be limited somewhat) which would make our starting lineup even better, while allowing us to have Turnbow/C. Cordero as 7th/8th inning setup men with Coco as the closer.

 

The biggest problem I'd see would be depleting the starting ranks in case of injury, although we'd still be covered with Gallardo and the guys at AAA.

 

However, if Melvin's been shopping Bush (Bush for Saltalamacchia thread) and the story that's come out is Gwynn for Otsuka, you'd have to imagine that he's made a phone call to Washington, and they're looking for more in return than Bush or Vargas. To me, Vargas or Bush + a good prospect is probably too much to give up for C. Cordero.

 

Note: typing this is more complicated than it should be, since we're dicussing two Carlos V's and two Cordero's.

[pogokat]

you guys realize that claudio vargas was on the nationals last year and they dfa'd him, right?

 

i'm pretty sure they dont want him back...

[hauser42]

you guys realize that claudio vargas was on the nationals last year and they dfa'd him, right?

 

i'm pretty sure they dont want him back...

 

Pogo it makes perfect sense becuase here on brewetfan.net we realize that once a guy puts on that magical brewer uni he is a better player than when he walked in the door.

 

Keep Chad Cordero out of Brew Town he has had his best year and doesn't seem to be dominating like he was in the past.

[DrWood]

next year's closer better be the same one the brewers have this year. Expect several more losses if he's not.

[Brian the Automator]

[ next year's closer better be the same one the brewers have this year. Expect several more losses if he's not. ]

 

The difference between the absolute worst closer in the league and Cordero has been 3 blown saves.

 

Is it unreasonable to think that the club could find an option somewhere between the two for something other than the 10M+ a year Cordero will command?

[MadisonBrewerBlue]

cordero , of late has had his issues...

 

not sure i would be willing to pay $10 mil for him next year the way he has pitched in his last 10 games...plenty of games left for him to turn it around...

 

maybe doug already has his closer for next year in turnbow. who knows....its great to speculate

[hauser42]

cordero , of late has had his issues...

 

not sure i would be willing to pay $10 mil for him next year the way he has pitched in his last 10 games...plenty of games left for him to turn it around...

 

He was never going to keep up the ungodly pace that he was on in the early season. If he would have blown a save here or there early then some people would not be down in him.

 

Every closer blows some game nature of beast so when he comes back and slams the door in the second half folks will be back on the bandwagon.