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Sports Illustrated Reports AROD Tested Positive for Steroids

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Maybe it's wrong of me, but I'm excited to hear any news that might be bad for the Yankees. Hopefully this is the first of a number of bad events that lead to the Yankees missing the playoffs again.
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Wow! I always thought he was clean. This will for sure taint some of his accomplishments. How does this not come out until 6 years later?
In the article, it states that random testing was done in 2003 to determine if a steroid testing policy needed to be put in place in 2004. It was done confidentially. However, the lab that did the testing was raided as part of the BALCO case and the names are now known (but only AROD's has been released thus far).
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This sucks. I've always really liked A-Rod even though he was a Yankee. I'm sure many on this board got to see him play in Appleton -- he wasn't there all that long, but you could tell at that time he was something special. I don't buy the 'light-hitting' shortstop Bush. His slugging percentage was was .631 with 36 home runs in the bigs when he was 20 years old -- his first 'full' season in the bigs. I always had it in the back of my mind though that given his power surge during his career he might have been on the juice.
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And once again Jose Canseco is vindicated. Can people stop attacking that guy now? He's been pretty much 100% dead on with everyone he has accused. I also wouldn't be surprised if we found out the Pujols has been on the juice or HGH since he was around McGwire before he retired. Whomever Canseco or McGwire came in contact with they seemed to taint by providing an outlet for those players to also pick up the drugs.

 

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Honestly, I'm looking forward to hearing A-Rod get booed from now on. A pretty boy multi-multi-millionaire who used steroids, playing for the Evil Empire, whose agent used to be Scott Boras. What greater villain can you have in sports?

To be honest, I don't understand this logic 100%.

Pretty boy - Why? Who cares? This could be also said about some of the Brewers.
Multi-multi-millionaire - This is one thing that drives me nuts. Is this A-Rod's fault? Should he play for less? The thing about professional sports is that your job is more or less the same whether to play in Milwaukee, Kansas City, LA, Chicago, or New York. It's not like 'normal' jobs where depending on where you work can change your real duties in a major way. I have no problem with a person doing the same job in professional sports or real life going to a place that pays the most. A baseball player has a job to do and doesn't have to make any type of stand against making money. If you could have the same job you have now with the same responsibilities, but get paid 10 - 30% more would you take it?
Steroids - I'll give you this one. I do worry though that this list of steroids players will get longer and longer and we'll assume (or already do) that every player did it.
Scott Boras - Similar to your millionaire comment. If I were an athlete, I'd want an agent that could get me the most money. That sounds selfish, but let's face it...athletes know where they want to or don't want to play. They don't have to be convinced. Boras gets his money for his clients. I hate Boras as a fan, but if I understand why he has a nice client base.
Evil Empire - I'll give you this one also. The only thing that sucks is they aren't breaking rules. I hate them as a fan. Hopefully something will change in the future to prevent them being able to buy any player at any price. I'd have to imagine the Yankees are still making some good bank so it makes business sense. If the rules don't change, the Yankees sucking is the only way to stop the Evil Empire.

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go figure. he was always supposed to be one of those guys whom nobody really suspected of juicing. at this point, there's probably no name that would surprise me anymore.

 

of course we've got a fan culture that is so anxious to pin anyone to drugs that you get even the smallest accusation and you're guilty for life.

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JJHardy7, you make good points and I'll agree with you on some of them. Like with the money, I won't deny that people should make as much as they can. That's what America is basically built on...but if he cheated to get where he is now, that's another thing.

 

I haven't always been an A-Rod basher...don't like the guy necessarily, but I respect his ability. I was at the game at Miller Park when he hit his 400th homer, and I stood and applauded with everyone else. That said if he did do steroids, a lot of respect I had for him is now gone.

 

The pretty boy comment ties into the stuff that Joe Torre has come out and said, that he sometimes seemed to care more about how he looked than what he was doing on the field. He just comes off as this prima donna Hollywood type. The average baseball fan isn't going to like that, one way or another.

 

Anyway, I think the smartest thing for him to do is take the Giambi route and immediately admit that he did it, and apologize. Otherwise he's going to be hounded about this stuff for the rest of his career.

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I was joking about the light-hitting part. The KID could mash at 18. But really, given his competitive nature (stories of him shagging groundballs for hours before school in Miami....everyday), are we really that surprised? I will admit that since A-Rod was using, all but a very select few are fair game. As mentioned earlier, this has to make Frank Thomas a HoFer, and possibly a first-ballot. His numbers are beyond reproach, as are Ken Griffey Jr's.
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I'm ambivalent about this. On the one hand, I've never especially liked A-Rod, and he plays for the Yankees, so some mean-spirited part of me is OK with him getting tarred with this brush. On the other hand, this is horrible for the game as a whole, and it means we're looking forward to a summer of renewed steroid mania. Given the Yankee angle, this is bound to dominate the next 10 months of baseball -- a prospect that makes my heart sink.

 

And just in case you were wondering if it's true -- this from the SI article itself:


When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."

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I love that I heard this from the MLB network. I turned the channel on aroudn 1:40 to watch Randy Johnson's strikout game, and instead they have a special breaking news segment talking about all of this.

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Why is everybody so confident that Griffey and Thomas never used any performance enhancing drugs? How can you possibly have any idea? Until just a few hours ago, many of you would have said the same thing about Rodriguez.

 

For a while now, I've just been presuming that few players, if any, were completely clean throughout their careers. I've just accepted it as being the norm during that era, and moved on.

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So there were over 100 names on the list and A-Rod's was the only one that was leaked to the media? I'm pretty neutral about the guy, and to me that seems pretty unfair.

 

I agree DJ43, you can't really assume on anyone anymore. Griffey and Thomas seem to be the cleanest from that era, but who knows.

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I'll throw a name out there for discussion.

Cal Ripken Jr.

 

If anyone's record could be aided by 'roids, it's his. As for Frank Thomas, the guy has gone on record COUNTLESS times DEMANDING steroid testing because it tarnishes his numbers that he has to be compared to them. I would say Greg Maddux would use 'roids before The Big Hurt!

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