Deal Capuano to make room for Gallardo

[Never Outhustled]

I think dealing Capuano has to be part of this brainstorming session of how to open a spot for Gollardo. He has far more value to most teams, he carries a former All-Star tag, but he's only slightly more valuable to the Brewers. His value is that he's a clearly established player. He is the one guy in this equation that has the value to bring an impact player in return.

 

Vargas has quality stuff, so its believable that he has improved. Bush is a quality pitcher despite his present 5.48 ERA. His career ERA is still just 4.47 in 530 innings, almost half of those in the AL. He's improved each month, and looks like he could be the guy we expect for the rest of the season.

 

Capuano has also been significantly worse in the 2nd half in each of his 3 Brewer seasons.Dealing him after his return has to be part of the discussion.

[RyDogg66]

I would be open to trading Cappy under these circumstances.

 

1. It is at the end of this season

 

2. Ben Sheets is extended 5 more years

 

3. Gallardo succeeds in Milwaukee the rest of the year.

 

A rotation the next 4 years of Sheets, Gallardo, Suppan, Bush Villanueva would be great.

[sgtcluels]

I don't see how removing a lefty from our rotation is a good thing. Granted his command has been leaving much to be desired.

 

Unless you can convince Dave to start throwing with his left, I don't think it's worth it.

[endaround]

Capunao is tradeable, just absolutely no reason to do it in season. If the Brewers have any hope of resigning Sheets though, Capuano has to be moved at some point.

[Never Outhustled]

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The combined ERA of Capuano starting and Bush/Vargas relieving would likely be higher than the combined ERA of Bush/Vargas starting and Otsuka relieving. Thats a reason. That, and we's still get additional help from the deal.

[UWRyan428]

I have long esposed that the best course of action would be to trade the Econ major from Duke. The fact that we have not one, but two young pitching phenoms who could start in a pinch (Yo and Villy) only compounds the tradeability of our former All-Star. The argument that we would have no left-handed starter in our rotation is novel, at best. And if I had to choose between Big Ben and Cappy, Big Ben wins 8 days a week. If I'm the Brews, I'm on the phone with Atlanta for McCann, even if he is damaged goods right now, as it would be quite funny to see Johnny Estrada twice pushed out by the young power hitter. Beyond McCann, I could see young Cappy traded to the D-Rays for Reyes and Baldelli (another piece of damaged goods who lately has been living off his reputation, but is still younger than the gent he is to be traded for). Another good possibility for a trade for Cappy would be our main rival for the NL Pennant, the Mets (as I think the NL West will ultimately wear their cronies down). I could see a package of Martinez and Heilman/Humber, though they may be more inclined to include Gomez, which is like being given the choice between shrimp and scallops. No matter what the haul, I think it best to get a young blue chip position player, as our rotation, as I stated earlier, is at max capacity and within the next two years, should only get more crowded with the ascension of my favorite prospect, Billy Inman.

[Never Outhustled]

No matter what the haul, I think it best to get a young blue chip position player, as our rotation, as I stated earlier, is at max capacity and within the next two years, should only get more crowded with the ascension of my favorite prospect, Billy Inman.

 

Cappy should only be dealt for immediate help, and our lineup is even fuller than our rotation. I wouldn't trade for an OF when we already have Hall and Hart, plus we just drafted our LF of the future. We could use bullpen help, and we have no closer next year.

[UWRyan428]

Turnbow could step into the closer role next year, and we still have Wise and Villy (if he's not thrust into a rotation spot). And we could use a bit of improvement in an outfield spot (Hall and Hart are set) and at catcher. And with the inevitable contracts about to be doled out to our stud infield (which I know is un-needed, as they still are not arby-eligible), I would assume that it isn't the worst idea to find some economically-aesthetically pleasing contracts (read, pre-arby-eligible) pieces.

[recte44]

You never trade someone when their value is at its lowest.

[hauser42]

UWRYAN you are one of buddies on this site,but I feel you are out there with some of the trades.

 

It will take more than Cappy to get McCann. McCann is a big time catcher and the Braves are more likely to move Salty.

 

I don't understand the wanting of Martinez in any deal he is not healthy at all.

 

Rocco is a huge gamble for this team to take.

 

 

Some feel there is no need for a lefty then why are teams always looking for lefties?? Cappy needs to stay Yo has yet to prove anything beyond one start against one of the worst hitting teams in the league.

[kilgore37]

I am wondering what we are gonna get for cappy? The only teams that are going to want him are making a playoff push. They arent going to trade major leaguers for him. We dont really need any more prospects. I dont see doug moving any of our starters. We will move 1 of them to the bullpen and use them to start when someone goes down.

[dadofandrew]

SP's are very valuable, and everyone wants to trade them for nearly nothing. Just like in the offseason, Doug will hang onto them and revisit things after the year is over.

 

Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with having 7 major league quality SP's. As I have often said, it's just like 2006 has been completely forgotten...SP depth is a great thing to have.

[EAsports28]

I would be very sad to lose Cappy. I see no way he gets traded mid-season. I don't know if there will be a limit to Attanasio helping the club in payroll when they need it, but is it too unfeasible to have a Sheets-Cappy-Suppan-Yo-Bush rotation? Maybe unlikely, but I wouldn't complain if it happened.

[EAsports28]

Plus it's kind of a pride point for us to say we have the pitcher with the greatest pickoff move in baseball. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[DSFastball55]

Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with having 7 major league quality SP's. As I have often said, it's just like 2006 has been completely forgotten...SP depth is a great thing to have.

 

I often don't agree with Al, but he's right on here. Have we totally forgotten what happened just last year?

[DHonks]

I think Cappy could be the one dealt in the offseason, unless they feel they can deal Suppan, which I find unlikely after 1 year.

 

I think we all expect Vargas to be gone in 2008. But that only opens a spot for Yo or Carlos Villanueva. I wouldn't be opposed to that, except once again we should have good depth with Parra, Inman, Jackson, Dillard, Hammond, etc in AAA.

[endaround]

Suppan has a no trade clause for next year as well I believe.

[Boy Jeenius]

Keep 'em all as long as we can. You can never have enough pitching. Our everyday line up seems to be more than above average for the forseeable future, so no pressing need to go looking for an upgrade there. Just because we may have supposed surplus in the area, does not mean we have to trade. If there is any surplus from which to trade, it should be the prospects starting to bunch up in the minors. Let someone else take the chance that a prospect might pan out or not for a while.

[rousieboy]

Trade Capuano....what?

[splitterpfj]

There's no way I'd even consider dealing Capuano during this season. Pitching depth is a good thing, last year showed us why in a painful way.

 

I'm sure the team will pay attention to how many IP Yo gets this year, I don't expect him in the Milwaukee rotation through season's end.

 

Next winter, I think Cappy's a good bet to be dealt, but not during this season.

[Weirdos19]

I agree that Vargas has been good this season, but his WHIP is so high, I think he may not be quite so good during the second half.

 

If we deal anybody, my vote is for Vargas. You can get a quality relief arm for him straight up. Sell high, right?

 

Vargas and Gross for a solid arm? Sign me up.

 

Sheets, Gallardo, Capuano, Suppan, Villanueva with Bush out of the pen.

[Never Outhustled]

Many are saying you never have enough pitching, but I'm saying deal Cappy to improve the pitching. All the starters are similar, but adding a top late inning reliever would improve the team ERA. Some think we'd really miss Cappy down the stretch, but lets not forgot that he had ERAs of 7.01, 4.42, and 5.17 after the break the last 3 years. What if he has another 2nd half collapse?

 

Obviously, Bush needs to continue to pitch like he has pitched in June, and Vargas has to continue to pitch like he has all year, but we don't have to make a decision untill Cappy is healthy again.We'll know more about this rotation when Cappy is back.

[GAME05]

isn't it way too early in his career to think about dealing Cappy? you've got to give the guy a couple more years to really learn what kind of pitcher he will become. he hasn't been in the league all that long; do you still consider him a prospect pitcher or an established one?

[Never Outhustled]

isn't it way too early in his career to think about dealing Cappy? you've got to give the guy a couple more years to really learn what kind of pitcher he will become. he hasn't been in the league all that long; do you still consider him a prospect pitcher or an established one?

 

He'll be 29 later this year, and has shown no signs of improvement since 2005. He had 3+ seasons entering the year. I don't know what others think, but I've considered him maxxed out for a couple of years already. He has good, but not great stuff.

[JohnBriggs12]

As much as it would be comforting to go into 2008 with 7 solid starting pitchers, baseball economics play a role here.

 

Capuano will be in his second arby year next year and will command $5-6 million by just doing his normal low 4 ERA production the rest of this year.

 

Knowing Melvin, if he were to deal Capuano, he'd get a young arm included in the deal. But he should wait until the offseason.