Dunn Rumor (Dead)

[GAME05]

maybe Melvin said he was never talking about Griffey, but i'm certainly not expecting any major-sport GM to be totally honest.

 

if adding Dunn is the player that would prevent us from losing the division by a couple games, then even Irribarren would be worth letting go of to me.

 

names like Santana or Garza are usually throw around for players as good as Dunn, so if we could pull of that trade for a player the level of Irribarren, it doesn't seem like an unreasonable cost.

[shelmark]

Dunn likes Milwaukee about as much as the Chinese delegation and that lawyer Feces. Fun to speculate but this is complete garbage. Reds GM would be immediately Bowdened.

[JumpinMacFlash]

I don't know what to think. Dunn's production would really outweigh Jenkins's, but I don't like the idea of just renting a player. That might be just because I'm not used to the idea though. If the rumor is accurate, then I would be all for it. I don't like the idea of throwing in Weeks because I still feel like he has an insane amount of potential and I'd hate to throw away those potential All-Star seasons where we'd perennially contend for trying to go for broke on the first shot. If the move doesn't pay off, the Brewers don't win the World Series and Dunn walks...would it be worth it to lose Weeks? If the deal doesn't include Weeks and would go down as stated, sign me up.

[aracko]

To me this is total BS. Doesnt Dunn have a 13 M team option for 2008? That Option is void ONLY if traded. I dont believe that The Reds are looking to move Dunn.

[twobrewers]

This can't be true.

 

If it was it would have happened already. I don't think Melvin would have let him hang up the phone without completing a deal.

[endaround]

1) What team is going to trade a relief pitcher for Jenkins? He's neither young nor signed cheaply. It would need to be a team in contention and they tend not to cut up their bullpens.

 

2) Dunn isn't much if any of an upgrade because his defense is so bad. WARP for Dunn 2.4. WARP for Jenkins 2.4. Dunn's comes from BRAR 27 and FRAR - 5. Jenkins has BRAR 10 and FRAR 11.

[PeaveyFury]

Are those numbers based on career numbers, or this year?

[JoeH33]

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WARP for Dunn 2.4. WARP for Jenkins 2.4. Dunn's comes from BRAR 27 and FRAR - 5. Jenkins has BRAR 10 and FRAR 11.

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Auf English bitte?

[endaround]

Its this year. But because of his defense, the only time Dunn had a WARP higher than Jenkins in a full season for both was 2004.

 

I'm not saying that all being equal I'd take Jenkins over Dunn, but I would prefer Jenkins and Wise over Dunn.

[ryanbraun75]

this rumor makes a lot of sense. We have three infielders, Matt Gamel, Escobar, and Irribarren who are all expendable adn could definetly help out another team. I think that we shoud throw in an outfielder. But dunn is the kind of thing the team needs. We need another power threat behind prince to scare someone. Imagine a top 6 in our order of Hart, Hardy, Braun, Fielder, Dunn, Hall trying to hit u. It would make me wet myself

 

 

("trying to hit u"? Please note forum rule about AOL-speak: What kind of language is not allowed?. Thanks. --1992casey)

[Fear The Chorizo]

Dunn

Phillips

 

for:

 

Weeks

Zach Jackson

Gamel

Gross

 

This is a bit of an extension of the rumor for Dunn straight up, I was thinking that there may be a chance to get both Dunn and Phillips in the same deal, especially if Weeks is included in the deal going the other way. I doubt the Brewers would want to trade Weeks away, even with his struggles. Dunn would be a two month rental, then he would leave and the Brewers would receive compensation picks for next year. Phillips would be the real key in this scenario, because Milwaukee would retain his rights for a couple of years before he hits free agency.

 

would cincy even think of doing this (my guess is they'd need to get a better arm in the deal than Jackson to say yes, but Weeks' potential alone may be enough for the reds to say yes - although his potential may also be enough for Milwaukee to not even consider moving him)

 

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[shelmark]

Weeks isn't going anywhere except possibly Nashville.

[dlk9s]

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I have never liked Adam Dunn. I know the stats people like him, but I just find him painful to watch. He looks clumsy out in leftfield and the strikeouts would drive me nuts. We already have so many homeruns as it is.

 

I think we need a high average singles and doubles hitter instead of someone like Dunn. I hope this rumor is not true.

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I agree with Ajay on this one. We hit for power just fine (second in HRs only to Cincy, I believe, unless we have passed them). The problem this team has had on offense this year has been driving guys in without the homerun. We leave tons of RISP. Another power hitter who swings and misses too much is not the solution.

[ryanbraun75]

he does have a lot of RBIS and he is a good person to have behind prince. We need someone who can scare the other team. It also would help bill hall out as well hitting behind so much power.

[BillScottCanRake]

I agree with Ajay on this one. We hit for power just fine (second in HRs only to Cincy, I believe, unless we have passed them). The problem this team has had on offense this year has been driving guys in without the homerun. We leave tons of RISP. Another power hitter who swings and misses too much is not the solution.

 

I think OBP is a bigger problem than RISP. Milwaukee is 9th in the NL with a team OBP of 330 and 11th in the NL with RISP. The thing is, RISP situations only accounts for roughly 25% of the teams plate appearances. Yes, those situations are important, but for a team that hits as many home runs as the Brewers do, I don't think it is as important as just getting on base.

 

Replacing Jenkins' 320 OBP with Dunns 360 (combined with moving JJ from the two spot in the lineup) wouldn't be such a bad thing.

[zzzmanwitz]

Sportsradio 1250 WSSP just reported that Dunn is close to becoming a Brewer for Wise and a PTBNL

 

edit: Apparently they got their info from brewerfan.net http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[brewers255]

when was this reported?

[zzzmanwitz]

12:00 PM... I'm listening to the pre-game show and they just said its pretty much a "Dunn" deal HAHAHAHA http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[brewers255]

and is this for real or are you just making it up? Please give a report on what they said. Thanks! I hope this is true.

[zzzmanwitz]

I have no link because it was a radio report... but they basically said:

 

"BREAKING NEWS! The Brewers are close to aquiring Adam Dunn for Matt Wise and a PTBNL."

 

Turn on WSSP and they are talking about it off and on with some reporters.

[craigharmann]

I'm intrigued. But, if we get Dunn, would he play in left? Then what about Jenks and Mench? Would they be moving on? Hall should be back soon, so if this is the deal, you're back to a logjam of outfielders and then some.

[zzzmanwitz]

If it happens, i'm guessin they move Jenkins or Mench and maybe TGJ for a reliever once Hall comes back.

[brewers255]

thanks for the heads up. Wow all they wanted was Wise and a PTBNL? Ship out Tony Gwynn Jr for Otsuka next.

[brewmann04]

why would the brewers weaken spot here.

Losing Wise in the Pen would be very seious and hope this is not true . we need all the depth we can have their unless they have a second move to be made with Jenks or Mench for a reliever.

[And That]

What team is going to trade a relief pitcher for Jenkins? He's neither young nor signed cheaply. It would need to be a team in contention and they tend not to cut up their bullpens.

 

Depends on how much of Jenkins' salary the Brewers would be willing to pick up. Also could be a three-way trade.