Rangers intent on trading Teixeira

[adambr2]

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Sounds like he may be headed to the Giants or Braves, but oh man, I wish we could get this guy if he could go back to playing corner outfield, especially now that it sounds like the Ranger's trade demands are going down.

 

There wouldn't be a better replacement out there for Jenkins in LF. He'd complete the lineup, period. Just a dream, but I sure wish we could get him and get him back into the outfield.

 

He's the premiere guy out there on the block before the deadline this year, no question.

[giffted1]

Tex would probably be a butcher in the OF, but he couldn't be much worse than Mench. Melvin was GM when he was drafted, and he loves bringing guys back from Texas, so I guess there's always a chance he comes here.

[Ennder]

Teix is a very good 1B and he seems to move pretty well, wouldn't surprise me if he's better than Lee in the OF... not that its saying that much.

[trwi7]

His .410 OBP would look outstanding in our lineup.

[adambr2]

Yeah. He hits for power. He hits for average. He plays good defense. He's patient at the plate. And he isn't particularly expensive for a player of his caliber. ($9M this season, arbitration eligible next season, so we'd control him through at least 2008 and he probably wouldn't cost us more than $10M or so next season.

 

Good chance we'd lose him after 2008, but he'd be a Brewer for at least a year and a half and would be huge in making us major contenders this year and next year.

[MoneyballMan]

Has there been any speculation in the press (at all) about Tex and the Brewers? I'm just curious if anyone has seen even a hint (like at MLB trade rumors, or wherever). I agree this would be outstanding, but I'm not holding my breath.

[trwi7]

No I haven't. I think this is more just speculation from the OP on wanting the Brewers to try to get in and go after Tex.

[adambr2]

No, there's no rumors, no speculation, nothing like that, and I hope I didn't come off making it sound like there was, don't want to start anything and give people false hope. I guess the fact that Melvin has done business with Texas might instill some degree of wishful thinking, though.

 

It's just the #1 guy on my wishlist at the deadline, that's all. Would absolutely love to see it. I'd be willing to give up Jenkins, Mench, Gwynn, and Inman just to land him.

[splitterpfj]

I guess if you're willing to call Adam Dunn an "outfielder", Tex is worth a shot.

 

I'll be shocked if he ends up in Milwaukee, but I do think they'll deal him.

[BREWCREW5]

this should probably be in the trade section but i wonder what it would take to get him...

[princeginterhallhelms04]

Heard a rumor that the Redsox might make a move for him. I think they need to make some kind of move and getting Teixeira would be great. That would be a heck of a lineup.

[PeaveyFury]

Yeah, Teixeira would be a monster acquisition that wouldn't be a rental. I'd be more than thrilled.

[aracko]

Id much rather have Gagne.

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Id much rather have Gagne.

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Just wondering why exactly you'd rather have Eric Gagne than Teixeira? I don't get it.

[adambr2]

Tex would make a much bigger impact than Gagne would ever have a chance to.

 

Sounds like the Dodgers are very interested. I hope that doesn't happen. They may be our biggest competition if we make the playoffs, and that would make them better instantly. It really would, unlike when the ESPN announcers gushed about how much better the Cubs had just become when they announced the Jason Kendall trade.

[aracko]

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Just wondering why exactly you'd rather have Eric Gagne than Teixeira? I don't get it.

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Mark Tiexeira has never played anywhere but 3rd and 1st base, 2 positions we have superstars at. Sure we can believe he has the skills to play LF or RF, but in reality, we know he can mash but I dont see anything that makes me believe he is some amazing athlete. His defensive skills have been in question from the day he was drafted out of GT. Not to mention the price on the guy has got to be thru the roof.

 

On the other hand, Gagne has a track record as one of the best bullpen arms in MLB history, and is also a likely Hall of Famer. Teixeria would be a good addition to any team, but having the opportunity to get a Hall of Fame pitcher and add him to the staff for our run at the Division would trump any move that the Cubs could make in my opinion. Gagne for some reason seems pretty available.

 

For some reason I think people are writing Gagne off as just some over the hill pitcher and that is simply not the case.

 

 

Not to mention he is a Canada guy - so Doug Melvin has to be on the phone for him.

[adambr2]

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Mark Tiexeira has never played anywhere but 3rd and 1st base, 2 positions we have superstars at. Sure we can believe he has the skills to play LF or RF, but in reality, we know he can mash but I dont see anything that makes me believe he is some amazing athlete. His defensive skills have been in question from the day he was drafted out of GT. Not to mention the price on the guy has got to be thru the roof.

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Yes he has. He's played 32 games in the outfield in his career. So it's not like he's ever been a mainstay there, but he had a heck of a lot more career starts in the OF than Hall had before this season.

 

Corner OF spots are not as tough of a transition as CF. Tex is a good enough athlete to adjust. It may not be immediate, no, but neither was Hall's transition, and he's working out fine now.

 

And how do you question the defensive skills of a 2 time gold glover? Granted that's at first base but he's absolutely demonstrated the versatility for the outfield.

 

We all would have laughed at the beginning of this year if

anyone would have told us that Graffy would be getting starts in LF, especially starting the season with 6 outfielders. But he has, and he's looked relatively comfortable out there.

 

If we acquired Tex before the deadline, we're looking at probably 3 or 4 errors that he makes in LF between then and the end of the season. I can live with that. That's offset 10-fold by what he brings to the lineup, especially around a lineup as potent as ours.

[aracko]

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It may not be immediate, no, but neither was Hall's transition, and he's working out fine now.

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You are advocating changing a guys position in the middle of a race to 1st place in the division. We are no longer the laughing stock of the league. Bill Hall is a considerably better athlete and he worked really hard on the transition - all spring training and even the offseason. Hall might have made it look easy and made it look like anyone can do it, but I think that he is just really an amazing athlete.

 

Teixeria just does not fit on this team right now.

 

EDIT TO ADD - THanks for the correction, as I do have to admit that I was not aware he played in the OF.

[adambr2]

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You are advocating changing a guys position in the middle of a race to 1st place in the division. We are no longer the laughing stock of the league.

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Okay, I agree completely. So I ask you this -- do you honestly believe that any initial struggles that Tex might have in LF would offset the .310 AVG, .410 OBP, 30 HR a year power that he'd bring to the offense? With his .940 OPS?(Perhaps even better batting around Braun and Prince)

 

I agree, there might be some adjusting, certainly, and it's not ideal to do that in mid-season. But it's not like he's going to go out there and be a complete butcher, not like he's going to be misjudging routine pop-flys, juggling everything on the ground, and looking completely lost. We don't need him at SS. I just don't see him struggling so much in LF that all the offense production he brings is negated.

 

Let me put it like this -- Ryan Braun currently has a .906 fielding percentage, at third base, a position where you're going to see a lot more chances for errors than LF. That's pretty damn awful.

 

Does anybody know he has a .906 FP? Does anybody really care?

[aracko]

Fair and good points.

 

The 2nd part of the question is what does he cost? I wouldnt imagine the Rangers parting with him for anything less than CV and Parra.

 

If the Crew adds his bat, I am not going to complain one bit. I just dont see it as likely nor do I see it as our biggest need. Then again, Its just my opinion.

[adambr2]

No, I don't see it as likely either. I would love to see it, though.

 

But you're right, cost is definitely an issue. If they were to ask for Gallardo, we'd have to pass. It would pain me greatly to give up CV, Parra, or Inman.

 

Inman I could make my peace with the most, since he's not going to be ready to help us anytime soon anyway.

 

I'd try something like Inman, Vargas, Gwynn, and Mench for Tex and a throw-in low prospect.

 

I'd do that in a heartbeat. The rotation after Sheets' return becomes 1) Sheets, 2) Gallardo, 3) Capuano, 4) Suppan, 5) Bush. That looks pretty good. Parra fills in for Sheets until his return.

 

That offer still might not be enough. Tex is a stud. But it's not like they'd be getting ripped off, they'd be getting a future solid starting pitcher, a decent current starter, a Juan Pierre type outfield prospect, and a servicable outfielder. And if they want to deal him to somebody in the next week, they may have to lower their demands.

[JohnBriggs12]

What's all the concern about a guy changing positions in the middle of a pennant race?

 

Haven't we seen Tony Graffanino in LF recently and he's had less experience out there than Tex?

[PKBadger]

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Gagne has a track record as one of the best bullpen arms in MLB history, and is also a likely Hall of Famer

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He had a very good 3-year stretch from 2002-2004. I don't think that's going to be enough to get him into the Hall of Fame.

 

 

Gagne stats

[shelmark]

I think you could get Texeira if you want to part with Inman, Z. Jackson, Jeffress, and Cain. Yes, I think it would take that much. Worth it? I don't know. They are good prospects but that is all they are. Now thinking about LaPorta and how silly this whole thread is. Fun to speculate and dream though.

[aracko]

Very good? That was the best run ever! 2 Time rolaids relief man of the year and a CY Young Award winner as a relief pitcher. Now he is picking up right where he left off - after the injuries of course. He still has alot of life left in him.