Why David Dejesus?

[MillerParkSouth]

What's the appeal with DeJesus? I keep hearing his name so I checked out his numbers and nothing really jumped out at me. Solid average, not a lot of speed or power, decent OBP. Would we play him in CF because it doesn't look like he has the numbers to play a corner.

 

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[yoyo49]

DeJesus is what the brewers have been looking for over the past two offseasons--left handed, solid OBP, potential to hit lead off. After the Royals traded for Crisp, it appears that DeJesus, Teahen, or Guillen will be on the move.

[yoshii8]

He is a solid player that plays for the Royals, so a lot of people automatically think he is available each off-season, which is probably not true.

 

I was browsing over his stats, and I would be very happy to get his .360 OBP in our lineup, I also noticed that he has a .923 OPS vs NL teams in 327 career ab's.

[Diskono]

Part of it might be the potential Big Lebowski-themed nicknames and catchphrases.

[JohnBriggs12]

He's not the greatest player but he's what the Brewers could use. He won't get on at a .400 clip, but he's never been below .351 and his OBP as leadoff man is very respectible .366. He won't hit too many HR but he'll be among the league leaders in triples and he hits in the clutch. In 2008, he hit (get this) .419/.484/.562 with RISP.

 

In his career with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs, he's struck out just 9 times in 132 plate appearences. That's incredible. In those same situations, he has 35 hits and 18 sacrifice flies. Contrast that with the flailing from many Brewers in that situation and you see why this guy would be such a nice addition.

 

He's crushed NL pitching in his career too. In interleague games in 327 AB's he's hit .345/.423/.500.

[MillerParkSouth]

so people are viewing him as a leadoff/CF then? I guess I could get on board with that, even though i'd hate to lose Cameron. Did the Royals play him at a corner though?

[bklynbrewcrew]

He is a decent enough player but I sure as heck wouldnt give up Rickie Weeks for him. A couple of mid range prospects is as high as I would go.

[ELCABALLO45]

Basically the reason why we want DeJesus is everything people are saying.

 

1. Left Handed.

 

2. Could lead off for us.

 

3. Great OBP.

 

4. Doesn't strike out that much.

 

Also, he is playing in a pitchers park in KC.

[nate82]

The Royals need middle infielders more than any thing else right now and them adding Crisp is very puzzling to me. With Greinke looking to go year to year with the Royals they may trade him also. I wouldn't mind trading Hart and a few prospects for Greinke and DeJesus. I'm not sure how likely a trade like that would be but it would be nice to get a lead off hitter in DeJesus and having Greinke as the #1 or #2 starter.

[Never Outhustled]

The Royals never thought much of Dejesus as a defender, as Dayton Moore has made numerous deals to keep him from playing CF. The latest was a deal that sent a hard-throwing, effective, cheap set-up man for an aging, expensive CF with mediocre at best offense.

 

He might fit best as a LF, with Braun in RF, if Hart could be dealt for a starting pitcher. I just don't think a team will be willing to give up a starting pitcher any better than Andy Sonnastine, Edwin Jackson, or Glen Perkins for Hart.

[joepepsi]

I'd like to see him and Weeks batting 1 & 2. Or possible move Hardy to 2nd and Weeks further down in the order.

[Bnowell4evr]

Id go balistic if we could trade Corey Hart for Andy Sonnanstine and then aquired David Dejesus. All you would have left to do is sign a couple relievers to the bullpen (Brian Fuentes or Kerry Wood??) then fix the 3rd base problem (Gamel Hall platoon?) and you're set for the season.

 

I think this team could easily contend for the Wild Card in 2009

RF DeJesus

2B Weeks

LF Braun

1B Fielder

SS Hardy

CF Cameron

3B Gamel / Hall

C Kendall

 

SP Gallardo

SP Parra

SP Bush

SP Sonnanstine

SP Suppan

 

RP Fuentes / Wood

RP Villanueva

RP Riske

RP McClung

RP Coffey

RP Stetter

RP DeFilice / Shouse

[JohnBriggs12]

Why is everyone so afraid to trade Rickie Weeks? My gosh he had to be benched down the stretch for Ray Durham. Now Durham's been a solid player but he's on his last legs. Weeks is 26 and is arby eligible but hasn't come close to fufilling his promise. He has to improve significantly to match what DeJesus has already done. Wouldn't it be wiser to keep and pay a producer like Hardy and create a spot for Escobar by dealing Weeks?

 

Neither Weeks or DeJesus are great defenders so that's kind of a wash.

[BrewCrewForever]

I'm a big fan of DeJesus. I would love to swing a deal for him. I just don't see it happening since we brought Cameron back.

[Never Outhustled]

Why is everyone so afraid to trade Rickie Weeks? He has to improve significantly to match what DeJesus has already done.

 

Dejesus hasn't been more valuable than Weeks. In his last 3 seasons, at ages 23, 24, and 25, Weeks posted a 358 OBA and 769 OPS.

In DeJesus's last 3 seasons, at ages 26, 27, and 28, he posted a 360 OBA and 780 OPS. Looks like they've been rather similar. Throw in that Weeks is a 2B and Dejesus is a LF, and its easy to see why we'd rather have Weeks.

[tigerbrew]

I certainly wouldn't mind trading Weeks for DeJesus and I think the Royals will be interested in that. After which I'd trade Cameron and play DeJesus in CF and leadoff.

 

DeJesus's contract is quite attractive too.

[RockCoCougars]

Because Co Co Crisp isn't available anymore, that's why.

 

As I've stated before here, I'm not a DeJesus fan. He doesn't do anything particularly well. I just don't get all the man love for a singles hitter who might hit .290, but with no discernible power or speed. Is it solely because he hits lefthanded, or are one of his Moneyball stats off the charts? For his career, he averages about 11 at bats per extra base hit. No way would I give up anything more than spare parts for him. Definitely not Weeks or Hart.

[Hate those Rodents]

There's a reason the Royals wanted Co Co, and it wasn't to put DeJesus and his lack of power at a corner outfield position. So if the Royals don't want you as a starter.........................?

[jjfanec]

Maybe the Royals are not the best judge of talent. I mean that gave Jose Guillen a boat load of money, so they have missed on some guys before. There are numerous players who blossom after they leave a team. DeJesus fits some of our needs.

[Hate those Rodents]

I guess I'd rather just keep Cameron for another year and hope a better trade solution (or even Cain improvement) presents itself in a year. Being a lefty with a good OBP is not the total answer when talking about a starting outfield position. I believe you have to bring more to the table, at least if our goal is to be/remain a playoff team. A few years ago, DeJasus would be fine though. If we want to win ninety plus? Maybe not...

[PeaveyFury]

Maybe the Royals are not the best judge of talent.

 

A great point that doesn't seem to come up often enough in situations like this. While GM's aren't bound to take absurd, one-sided deals that are often posted on all internet message boards on occasion, I think the flip side is that a lot of people underestimate how many doofuses are in positions of authority in Pro Sports as a whole.

 

I guess I'd rather just keep Cameron for another year and hope a better trade solution (or even Cain improvement) presents itself in a year.

 

I think the whole logic behind a Cameron deal is to improve the team's pitching by getting an arm in return for Cam, and then going out and getting a guy like DeJesus to fill the hole in CF. In a year, Cam isn't under contract with the Brewers, and (hopefully) we won't be in a position where we are looking to use him to fill other holes.

[endaround]

PMR's have Dejesus at -28.53 runs per 4000 plays. So they have Dejesus's defense at about 3 wins below average.

[nate82]

I'm wondering if a DiFelice/Dillard and a minor league pitcher to the Royals for DeJesus would be enough. If not a Gwynn or Iribarren could also be put into the deal.

[BrewCrewForever]

I think the whole logic behind a Cameron deal is to improve the team's pitching by getting an arm in return for Cam, and then going out and getting a guy like DeJesus to fill the hole in CF. In a year, Cam isn't under contract with the Brewers, and (hopefully) we won't be in a position where we are looking to use him to fill other holes.

 

My thinking as well Peavey. Get an arm or two for Cameron then make a deal to get DeJesus. Gets a left handed bat in the lineup with a good OBP and the ability to leadoff. I reallly hope Melvin can swing these deals.

[piccione88]

PMR's have Dejesus at -28.53 runs per 4000 plays. So they have Dejesus's defense at about 3 wins below average.

Is that in left field, or center field. Either way I do not see DeJesus as an upgrade over Cameron. Sure DeJesus is cheaper, but the Brewers still have to pay by giving up players to get him.