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Insane trade ideas


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1.) Prince Fielder and J.J. Hardy to the Dodgers for James Loney and Clayton Kershaw.

 

2.) 3 team deal: Jeff Francouer to the Royals, Corey Hart to the Braves, and David DeJesus plus a low prospect to the Brewers from the Braves.

 

3.) Rickie Weeks to the Tigers for Placido Polanco.

 

4.) Prince Fielder and Rickie Weeks to the Angels for Ervin Santana and Brandon Wood.

 

Some of these are off the wall and I don't expect them to even come close to being true at all. I wouldn't mind any of the trades if they were done at all. I would really like #1 or #2 to happen. I see #3 as a possibility and #4 as not going to happen ever.

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#1- if you throw in 3B Blake DeWitt from the Dodgers, it makes the proposal quite interesting.

 

#2- even though I love Corey Hart, I've had quite a man-crush on David DeJesus. If you could someway sweeten the deal while still making it worthwhile to the Brewers and nab Kelly Johnson and/or perhaps Mike Gonzalez from the Braves, you really have something IMO. Johnson and DeJesus are both lefties that hit lefties pretty well, play good defense, and know how to take a walk. I think these are exactly the type of hitters that should be targeted. That being said, I can't imagine that they would come cheap.

 

#3- not a terrible idea, but not a great one either.

 

#4- not a fan of this one. Hasn't Woods' star fallen the last couple of seasons? He seems like the same hitter as many Brewers already, power and no plate discipline.

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We have zero reason to rebuild. Prince is carrying this team to it's first playoff berth in 26 years. He's the golden boy if we get there.

 

I could see a few deals before Spring next year. I'm not sold on trading JJ, either.

 

1. Weeks and a prospect for Brian Roberts. I don't think there's any doubt that the front office wanted Durham playing, even though Ned kept playing Weeks. We can use a leadoff hitter and another lefty in the lineup. Roberts has the OBP and speed we want in front of Braun and Fielder.

 

2. Escobar, Nelson, and Brantley for Cain. Sure, we mortgage a bit of the future, but Cain's and Yo is a much cheaper version of CC and Sheets.

 

3. Trade Suppan for Hank Blalock. Bad contract for bad contract. Melvin's connection with the Rangers nets us a third baseman.

 

Roberts 2b

Hardy SS

Braun LF

Fielder 1B

Hart RF

Hall/Blalock 3B

Cameron CF

Kendall C

 

Cain

Yo

Parra

Bush

McClung

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3. Trade Suppan for Hank Blalock. Bad contract for bad contract. Melvin's connection with the Rangers nets us a third baseman.
No way Texas does this. If they don't want to pay Blalock they just won't exercise his option.
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I wouldn't trade Escobar for Cain straight up, never mind throw in others.
What about Hardy or Escobar straight up for Kershaw or Billingsley. The Dodgers are going to need a SS after this year if they decide not to resign Furcal. I believe a Hardy straight up could net Kershaw I would rather have Kershaw over Billingsley but if the Dodgers say no to Kershaw I would take Billingsley though if it was him or nothing.
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I'd take Neimann in that deal too... rumor had it they were looking to unload him at the trade deadline... yes I have an infatuation with the Rays' pitching staff, I'm envious of their depth that's for sure.

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I would die of happiness if we had Gallardo and Lincecum as our #1-2. But there is just no way Giants trade him at this point not matter what the offer is. You just don't trade a young pitching phenom like Lincecum. Kershaw might be a more realistic possibility but it would still take a ton.

 

I am very excited for the offseason just since so much money is coming off the books. Will the sign, trade, or extend?

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Very interesting. The Rays could certainly use a SS, and they could resign either Hart or Hardy by clearing Crawford's salary.

 

Maybe substitute Shields for Price. They would probably want to keep Price with him being cheaper and having more upside.

Only reason why I say Price instead of Shields is because Crawford would be a one year rental player while Hart and Hardy could be signed cheaply. I wouldn't mind taking Shields but if you are trading Hardy away for someone I would want someone young in return someone like a Price.

 

Crawford and Hart are basically a wash talent wise and production wise. Hart does have better power numbers this year than what Crawford has though. OBP is about equal for career and this year. Hart and Crawford would be a player swap with the Rays getting more years with Hart than they would with Crawford.

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Possible 2009 team.

 

Hart traded to the Rays for Crawford

Nelson to the Royals for DeJesus.

Hardy to the Dodgers for Kershaw.

Weeks to the Tigers for Polanco and a low level prospect.

Suppan to the Yankees for a minor prospect, Yankees take on all of Suppans contract.

 

Starting Lineup 2009

1. CF DeJesus

2. 2B Polanco

3. LF Braun

4. 1B Fielder

5. RF Crawford

6. 3B Hall/Branyan/Lamb

7. SS Escobar

8. C Kendall/Rivera

9. P

 

Bench

Rivera, Kapler, FA, Rottino, Hall/Branyan/Lamb

 

Starting Rotation 2009

1. Sabathia (Dreaming a lot)

2. Gallardo

3. Parra

4. Kershaw

5. Bush

 

Bullpen

Villanueva, McClung, Torres, Riske, Coffey, Shouse, Stetter.

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Do you really think that Brad Nelson could fetch us David Dejesus?

Maybe if the Royals don't think Gordon will be a 1B. Not to mention the Royals have more options for the OF than they do for the IF. Maybe another minor league guy would need to be added to the list. But I don't think it would take much to get DeJesus from the Royals.

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I think it would take a lot better prospect than Brad Nelson, and I'm not sure that he's an upgrade over Cameron in CF. I'd rather go out and sign Orlando Hudson, or trade for a second baseman or third baseman like Brian Roberts, Dan Uggla, Kevin Kouzmanoff or Adrian Beltre, I think all could be impact players, and could be available this off-season.
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I'd rather go out and sign Orlando Hudson, or trade for a second baseman or third baseman like Brian Roberts, Dan Uggla, Kevin Kouzmanoff or Adrian Beltre, I think all could be impact players, and could be available this off-season.
Dan Uggla is worse than Weeks at 2B.
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Dan Uggla is worse than Weeks at 2B.
Yeah, if you judge him by his performance in the all star game. But if you look at the whole season Uggla has a higher fielding percentage, and RZR. Plus the difference on what their bat brings is tremendous. Although it would take a lot to acquire Uggla, he would be a great addition to the middle of the order.
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Yeah, if you judge him by his performance in the all star game. But if you look at the whole season Uggla has a higher fielding percentage, and RZR. Plus the difference on what their bat brings is tremendous. Although it would take a lot to acquire Uggla, he would be a great addition to the middle of the order.
Career wise this was Dan Ugglas best year OBP wise. I don't see how trading away Weeks and replacing him with another player who strikes out 150+ times a year is going to help anything. I would rather keep Weeks than trade for Uggla who is a batter that we already have enough of in our lineup.
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Yes he does strike out a lot, but that doesn't mean he isn't a very productive player. He walked 77 times in 08, and his walk rate has gone up a lot each season, he will give you 30 HR's and 90 RBI's w/ a .500 slugging percentage, even if he goes back to the .330 OBP he had in his first 2 seasons, he still would be a major upgrade . He also plays better defense than Weeks, and has a career .852 OPS vs. righties. The only thing that would concern me is how much it would cost to acquire him.
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