Fill out '09 rotation with trades, not big FA deals

[PeaveyFury]

And how can you say as stated above that Santana was not included?

 

We don't know for sure, it's just my speculation. I'm not trying to pass my speculation off as fact.

[Weirdos19]

Trade Hardy for Cain.

 

Yo

Parra

Cain

Bush

Suppan

 

Pretty impressed with both Suppan and Bush this year.

[ILuvDaBush]

And McClung. There's no reason, outside of dumb luck, that he would pitch better on the road than at home.

[clancyphile]

Halladay would be worth a trade, I think. If Sabathia goes, Halladay replaces 90% of the production at 75% of the cost. Worth Prince? Maybe not, but perhaps worth Hart and Suppan.

 

Step two, though, has to be keeping Sheets in the fold. The 1-2-3-4 of Sheets-Halladay-Gallaro-Parra would give the Crew a two-year window down the road. Hart could be replaced with Nelson, Gamel, Rottino (if Kendall's catching another 140 games for the Crew, Rottino could take over in right), or Branyan.

 

Halladay leaves after 2010, which gives the Brewers two picks in 2011 - and they can move Fielder to re-stock and rebuild.

[razzzorsharp]

And how can you say as stated above that Santana was not included? I know what I heard and it was also on the Old Style Tailgator show.

 

I also remember a thread on here about the same situation a couple years ago.

I started that thread based on a player I liked at the time and one whom I though would pan out to be a pretty good pitcher, not on any information I head (not to say there wasn't any).

[LouisEly]

Yo, Parra, Suppan, Bush, McClung... well, you can take McClung out of there because one of Sheets or Sabathia will be back. Sheets, Gagne, Capuano, and Mota combined to make $28M this year - they can afford one of Sheets or Sabathia.

 

Sheets/Sabathia, Yo, Parra, Bush (in case no one has noticed, now has a 4.12 ERA, 1.12 WHIP), and Suppan is what they started this year with. In case of injury they will have McClung, DiFelice (who is better than most people give him credit for), Villanueva, and Narron.

 

No reason they can't contend next year. And like someone else pointed out, that rotation is just as good as the Cubs rotation. The Cubs have generated 100 more runs than the Brewers this year due to higher BA and OBP.

 

The deal I make is Weeks plus prospects to Baltimore for Brian Roberts and cash (to bring that $7M salary down).

[Roscoe Chill]

Yep, they probably can afford Ben Sheets. But that doesn't mean they'll pay him what he'll get. And rightly so.

[fallingleaves]

I have a feeling the team will resign sheets, but CC is off to New York.

 

Sheets

Yo

Parra

Bush

Suppan

 

still a good rotation, but I don't think we will ever see as good of a brewer rotation with both CC and Sheets.

[Never Outhustled]

Sheets, Gagne, Capuano, and Mota combined to make $28M this year - they can afford one of Sheets or Sabathia.

 

 

I agree they can afford 1 of the 2, but that doesn't mean keeping one of them would be the best deal the team could make. Sheets has a long history of injury, possibly due in part to his disdain for conditioning, and Sebathia was grossly fat before he started his contract push, what will happen when they get a monster longterm contract? I'm guessing someone will be disappointed. I have no problem with the team spending huge money on a great player, but they need to avoid risk.

 

The player the team should invest a monster contract in this offseason is Mark Teixeira . He is a true professional, with reliable production despite playing for 3 teams in the last 2 years. He is in the middle of his prime, has no history of injury, and is a well conditioned athlete who's production should stay strong longer than most. He is a gold glove caliber defender who would represent a huge upgrade defensively at 1B. Offensively, he has a career OPS over 900, and would actually even increase the teams OBA.

I agree with the premise of the original poster, the safest way to aquire quality production for the rotation is via trade, and signing Teixeira would allow the Brewers to deal the massive and massively disappointing Fielder for pitching help.

[BrewCrewRising]

I agree with the premise of the original poster, the safest way to aquire quality production for the rotation is via trade, and signing Teixeira would allow the Brewers to deal the massive and massively disappointing Fielder for pitching help.

This just doesn't make sense to me. You'd basically be signing a FA who'll command a lot on the open market, and who would tie up a lot of resources. Fielder is slumping now, so we'd sell low on him. If he's so disappointing, what kind of real pitching help could we get? Unless you're advocating that what you're selling is the promise that Fielder is really better than he's been playing.

 

It would be best to let him rebound a bit and then sell him. He may not be as great as he was last season, but he's not as bad as he is now.

[JohnBriggs12]

Fielder isn't going to be sold low. I'd argue his off year is largely the result of his being lone lefthanded threat in lineup for most of season. It's no accident that Fielder's best stretch in May and June coincided with Branyan's hot month. You need to add a lefthanded bat to augment Fielder's in the lineup not deal your only legit lefthanded power bat.

[brwrsfan]

Fielder isn't going to be sold low. I'd argue his off year is largely the result of his being lone lefthanded threat in lineup for most of season. It's no accident that Fielder's best stretch in May and June coincided with Branyan's hot month. You need to add a lefthanded bat to augment Fielder's in the lineup not deal your only legit lefthanded power bat.

 

Mat Gamel....

[rousieboy]

Sheets will be in Houston and CC will be in California...somewhere. Sept 18th 2008 Rousieboy

[Never Outhustled]

Fielder isn't going to be sold low.

What evidence is there that he will bounce back next year? Sure, players occaisionally have down years, but thats usually related to nagging injury.

 

I'd argue his off year is largely the result of his being lone lefthanded threat in lineup for most of season.

Who was this mystical lefthanded bat we had last season? You can't really be suggesting that Jenkin's 790 OPS from the 6th spot in the order is the reason Fielder was able to put up a 1.013 OPS last season, but having Cameron putting up a higher OPS in the 6th spot this season from the 6th spot has caused Fielder to slump to a 879 OPS because Cameron didn't bat lefthanded for 2/3s of his games?

 

I'm thinking Fielders sunstancial weight gain is the most plausible reason for his regression.

 

You need to add a lefthanded bat to augment Fielder's in the lineup not deal your only legit lefthanded power bat.

My argument was to spend the money some are suggesting we spend on CC on Mark Texierra. He's a switch hitter.

 

Most importantly, Texierra is a goldglover, while Fielder is the worst defensive 1B baseball has seen in some time.