The Ryan Braun Injury Thread

[twobrewers]

He obviously doesn't know with two strikes you can't take a home run swing!

[BrewCrewForever]

Man I hope he doesn't miss more then the rest of this series and the Pirates series. Would be nice to have him ready for the Card series.

[Gobias Industries]

I don't know why they rushed him back. Even in BP, he looked like he was in a lot of pain.

 

He doesn't look like his normal self, even on his homerun he took an abbreviated swing. It was just a monster hanging curve that very few would miss.

[rluzinski]

Now what? 15 day DL?

[razzzorsharp]

Who knows what will happen as Brewers Live doesn't feel the need to talk about it.

[bbaehman]

Is no one saying anything? What's going on for those of us not close to WI

[Ennder]

He pretty obviously reinjured it on the swing. My guess is he is out 3-4 weeks but I'm a pessimist.

[razzzorsharp]

Ned didn't know if Braun would play but he said that he didn't want to go through this everyday.

[Sheets4theHOF]

So is this failure #2 of the medical staff? (The first allowing Yo to pitch after blowing out his ACL)

 

So disappointing. I just hope Kapler isn't hitting in the 3 hole for the next 13 games.

[BrewCrewRising]

According to TH's blog, the Crew is keeping mum on Braun.

 

This seems bad to me. They hide things as it is, and this seems to be the best way to do that. Just don't comment.

[DonMoney4Mgr]

DonMoney4Mgr wrote: (posted 8/13/08)

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Any injury for the brewers of a key player is always more serious than initially thought. Or it's just a serious injury to a key player when we think things are going pretty good.

 

Don't be surprised (I am no Doctor) if he misses most of the rest of the regular season, or re-injures it trying to come back too soon, or his swing mechanics get screwed up

Boy, I hate it when I'm right

[yount19.u]

So is this failure #2 of the medical staff? (The first allowing Yo to pitch after blowing out his ACL)

How can you say the potential for Yo to pitch this season is a failure when it has not even happened yet?

As for Braun, if it's "nothing" like Braun said and he's just a little tight, I still sit him the rest of the Astros series and take advantage of the off day Thursday.

 

 

 

[bullox]

How can you say the potential for Yo to pitch this season is a failure when it has not even happened yet?

Yo went back out and pitched against the Cubs after the injury in the same game.

 

[LUKE232323]

Sit him through the rest of the homestand. That gives him 7 days rest and gets him back for the Cardinals series.

And yes, if Braun is seriously re-injured then it is a failure by the medical staff. He should have not been back into the lineup until he was 100% healthy without any shadow of a doubt.

Combine this with Yost putting CC in with a 7 run lead and over 100 pitches already, and you have idiocy abound right now in the dugout.

[Klements Bratwurst]

For what its worth, Ned said this morning on WTMJ that Braun felt his muscles tighten again a bit (as discussed) but with the game going as it was with the Brewers leading 7-2 at the time, he decided he didn't want to risk anything.

 

So he was basically saying that yes he felt discomfort, but reading through the lines, Yost would have kept him in there if the game was an important and close game with pennant implications.

 

I still think this is a Brewers smoke screen in that, Braun reinjured it, and has taken a few steps back. However, as with most injuries, they are trying to make his availability unknown to their opponents if in fact they decide not to DL him again.

 

I am afraid though we are going to lose our Albert Pujols for a portion of the stretch drive.....

[Invader3K]

Honestly, it's not like Kapler has been a bad replacement. I love Braun, but if he needs to sit a few more days to get back to near 100%, so be it.

[Fatter than Joey]

However, as with most injuries, they are trying to make his availability unknown to their opponents if in fact they decide not to DL him again.

 

Why? -- What tangible advantage is there to be gained?

[homer]

Why? -- What tangible advantage is there to be gained?

 

Betting lines!

[Klements Bratwurst]

Why? -- What tangible advantage is there to be gained?

Bottom line, I suppose they probably want to make it appear that Ned has 5 guys on the bench to use (say Rivera, Counsell, Nix, Durham and Braun) versus saying that Braun is out completely. This makes Coop's job a bit tougher when planning pitching changes in late inning situations if he even thinks Braun could come out of the dugout to face that lefty that he might want to put in the game in that late inning situation, etc. This could/would only work for a couple of days before the other teams realize that Braun just isn't going to play.

 

My pessimistic side says a DL stint is coming because it didn't heal with the six or so days off.....

[Invader3K]

FWIW, I heard Bill Schroeder on the D-List this morning, and he said that he didn't think Braun would be out for much at all, though he may not be in the lineup tonight. He said that Braun's removal last night was more of a precautionary measure than anything.

[RU Rah Rah]

If it's serious, I hope they have the sense to take the hit now and sit him for two weeks on the DL so that he's fully healthy when he comes back.

 

(But maybe it was just a tweak last night? I hope so.)

[crewcrazy]

How can you say the potential for Yo to pitch this season is a failure when it has not even happened yet?

Yo went back out and pitched against the Cubs after the injury in the same game.

 

There was no way to know that Yo had torn his ACL during that game -- after the game, everyone thought that he had just tweaked his knee. It wasn't until he went in for the MRI that we found out he had torn his ACL. I agree it was stupid to keep him out there to risk arm injury while overcompensating for his knee, but that's more on Yost than it is the training staff. Once the ACL is torn, it can't be torn any more.

 

[Bring Back the Stein]

He'll be fine, he'll be fine . And the Packers will score on the last possession against that Broncos defense. And Big Dog will hit that 11-foot jumper. And Gorman will launch one out against Sutter. And...I'm going to go get that Lexapro prescription I've been meaning to get.

[BrewCityUnit]

I don't see the point of putting him on the 15 day DL. By September 1st we will have any replacement or bench players we will need. What if Braun feels better in 5 days? Then we would have regretted putting him on the DL. If we need another offensive player coming off the bench, just send down a pitcher since we don't really use our bull pen that much anyways.

[Sheets4theHOF]

There was no way to know that Yo had torn his ACL during that game -- after the game, everyone thought that he had just tweaked his knee. It wasn't until he went in for the MRI that we found out he had torn his ACL. I agree it was stupid to keep him out there to risk arm injury while overcompensating for his knee, but that's more on Yost than it is the training staff. Once the ACL is torn, it can't be torn any more.

 

Not to hijack this thread, but there is a test you can do to find out if the three major ligaments are stable without benefit of a MRI. Between the half innings the medical staff took Yo into the clubhouse to perform that test. Can you know for sure the ACL is blown out based on this test? No. But you unless you can find the ligament and verify that its completely intact why are you sending him back out there? Epic fail imo. You can't hurt the ACL anymore once its blown out, but you can certainly hurt your pitching arm trying to compensate for an unstable knee. I'm no Yost fan, but blaming him for that isn't correct. He trusted his medical staff as he should in that situation.

 

As far as this Braun injury only being a tweak or whatever, its still very significant. Its tough for a power hitter to be effective if in the back of his mind he's afraid to let his swing go because of potential sudden pain. Braun isn't "tweaking" if he's 100% before he starts swinging a bat again. So now instead of missing 15 days he misses 20+ days or they go the rest of the season with their best hitter at less then 100%. Also a total failure by the medical staff imo.