Dana Eveland: numbers not as pretty lately

[nikegolf6]

I just wanted to point out, that early on, people were talking up his performance with a sub 3.50 ERA in the A.L but his season numbers are starting to/have already regressed to the point where they aren't pretty anymore. Granted his ERA is now inflated by a gruesome 2 IP, 9 ER performance in his last turn, but overall:

125 IP, 4.46 ERA, 1.52 WHIP

85 K, 64 BB

 

This isn't really meant to be an "I told you so" or anything to anyone, just pointing it out, as I didn't even realize it until I came across his name in my fantasy league. I understand he's still 23 and could turn it around, whatever, I was just still thinking he was mowing down the AL West when apparently they've caught up to him.

 

 

(edit: more specific thread title --1992)

[trwi7]

Not sure why you bolded his 64 BB's in 125 innings. Parra has only two less in the same number of innings. Parra also has a 1.50 WHIP and is two years older. I'd still take Eveland on this team and he would still be one of our top pitching prospects. He has solid stuff and he's still young and has dominated the minors. His FIP is also a very respectable 4.29.

 

When you consider what we got for him (and Davis for that matter) you can pretty much say that it was a horrible deal as none of the players we traded for are on this team anymore, one is currently in the minors (Vargas), one is currently without a job (Estrada) and one is on the DL (Aquino). So we pretty much gave away a good major league starter, a good prospect and a has been for one year of crap.

[jjfanec]

Not sure why you bolded his 64 BB's in 125 innings. Parra has only two less in the same number of innings. Parra also has a 1.50 WHIP and is two years older. I'd still take Eveland on this team and he would still be one of our top pitching prospects.

It is not a huge but Parra is less than one year older than Eveland. Parra - October 30th 1982. Eveland - October 29th 1983. Eveland could pitch on this team but I still think Parra has more upside and am glad he is in the rotation. That being said I agree the trade has been rough for us.

 

[homer]

The big argument around here was Eveland vs. Zach Jackson. Pretty sure I know who I'd take between those two.

[Jopal78]

Eveland is a finesse lefty with command issues. He is the same pitcher now that he was with the Brewers. Admittedly, finesse lefties often take a few extra years to master their craft (Doug Davis, for example, didn't put it all together until he was 27 and with his 3rd organization). However, Eveland has yet to demonstrate that he can consistently get his pitches over for strikes. At 23 he still has plenty of time to develop, but with the Brewers contending for a playoff spot the last two seasons, Eveland wouldn't have been on the major league club with his command issues anyways.

 

With respect to Manny Parra, is a strike out pitcher who throws hard enough that he can get outs without having perfect command. The difference in physical talent between Parra and Eveland is vast.

[endaround]

No he wouldn't be because the coaches didn't like him. not because of control issues. Seth freaking McClung is on the roster.

[homer]

His command was fine all through his minor league career if we go solely by his BB/9. Now I don't know if guys were swingin at junk or what but I haven't found a scouting report saying he's had command issues.

 

I think his issues the last month or so can possibly be chalked up to fatigue. He only pitched 37 innings total last year due to injury and he's now thrown 125 so far this year.

[Ennder]

I don't think Eveland was going to get his life together as a Brewer, it took a change to get his act together. Having said that the numbers he has put up in a pitchers park with one of the best defenses in baseball behind him do not mirror what he would have probably done as a Brewer.

[DougJones43]

Is Eveland even on the A's major league roster anymore? I think they optioned him to AAA after being shellacked by the Red Sox.

[BrewCrewRising]

Is Eveland even on the A's major league roster anymore? I think they optioned him to AAA after being shellacked by the Red Sox.

He was optioned to Triple A Sacramento and Dan Meyers was recalled from Sacramento.

 

I sometimes get the feeling that Billy Beane "protects" his players by moving them back and forth between the minors and the big club. Eveland had 3 bad starts in a row, but for a team that isn't even competing, it isn't all that dire of a situation. It's almost as if Beane knows that Eveland will never be "it" and so wants to create a great trade intrigue by developing his major league stats.

 

I don't really follow the A's all that much, so I don't really know.

[Jopal78]

Yes, Eveland has a great K:BB ratio in the minor leagues, but so did Allen Levrault and Wayne Franklin. Both of whom had nearly a 1:1 K:BB ratio in the major leagues. I once heard Wayne Franklin in an interview attempt to explain the difference in his K:BB ratio between the minor and major leagues. He stated that in the majors, hitters don't swing at as many of his pitchers as minor leaguers did.

 

To this point in time I think the same holds true for Eveland. I suppose you could look up the play by play and see if he truly falls behind on most hitters, but judging from a nearly 1:1 k:bb ratio in the majors and a 4:1 ratio in the minors, I would tend to think the same is true for Eveland as was for Franklin.

 

Long story short, the Brewers are playing to win now, and Eveland is not likely to have helped the Brewers win now.

[Big Cat Dad]

Is Eveland even on the A's major league roster anymore? I think they optioned him to AAA after being shellacked by the Red Sox.

I was down in Vegas during his last start. The A's were big dogs and Eveland was on the bump......let's just say they were dogs for a reason. I still put $$$$ down. I need to take the brewers goggles off. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[dadofandrew]

I'd love to have his future. He was rushed and is still adjusting, but if you're 23 and even a passable SP, the odds are you'll have several very good years in that 26-29 range.