8/6/08 Brewers (Suppan) at Reds (Bailey): 11:35 AM CDT

[TerraceReserved]

was that a joke by billy? absolutely terrible.

[moofnelson]

With no outs, for Hall to be that far off first base is dumb. If Bruce doesn't catch the ball, the worst the Brewers have is 2nd and 3rd with no outs.

[datrain711]

Lets get CV to pitch 5 innings or so

Am I missing something? The brewers are tied. Plus, isn't this usually when Soup settles in to retire 12 of the next 13 or something?

I hope you are right but so far he has absolutely nothing.

[trwi7]

Yes Brian, Suppan has shown his durability. Just forget about his DL stint earlier this year.

[sheethead]

What happened to the "go halfway" fundamental with this team?

[bklynbrewcrew]

What good is durability if you are avg to below average and make 10 million plus per yr?

[datrain711]

yeah I don't know how accurate Gameday is, but it seems like he just keeps throwing changeups right down the middle of the plate.

[bklynbrewcrew]

Time for us to get some runs and put these losers away.

[eanelson4]

RISP Watch:

 

Brewers : 1-3

 

Reds : 0-3

[uecker9]

1-2-3 for Suppan , I'll take 3 more of those please.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

So to summarize one set of stats, if the Brewers are 8th in Runs scored in the NL, yet 10th in OBP & 12th in BA...those are close enough to our ranking in BA with RISP that it's not materially different. The Brewers have a low BA & OBP so it shouldn't be any different with RISP.

 

Maybe a better question to ask is what does it take for the Brewers to rank higher than 8th in Runs scored. Is it we're underperforming, our players are just mediocre or we're too heavily tilted to SLG vs. OBP to maximize run production? No answer here, just trying to frame a better debate than RISP. Not sure if the in-game thread is the right place, but I'll throw it out there.

[wibadgers23]

What good is durability if you are avg to below average and make 10 million plus per yr?

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm tired of hearing about his durability. He stinks.

[TerraceReserved]

quick question: why on earth is Counsell playing every darned game? We get it. He's a good fielder. Meanwhile he has an OPS of .651 while Branyan is rotting on the bench with a .921 OPS. It'd be nice if Ned could use his brain just once in a while.

[trwi7]

Battle of the century: A phrase-off between Jeff Cirillo with I mean and Doug Melvin with And that.

[bucks2281]

Rickie Weeks is hot!

[dlk9s]

Don't look now, but Weeks' BA is up to .230.

[eanelson4]

So to summarize one set of stats, if the Brewers are 8th in Runs scored in the NL, yet 10th in OBP & 12th in BA...those are close enough to our ranking in BA with RISP that it's not materially different. The Brewers have a low BA & OBP so it shouldn't be any different with RISP.

 

Maybe a better question to ask is what does it take for the Brewers to rank higher than 8th in Runs scored. Is it we're underperforming, our players are just mediocre or we're too heavily tilted to SLG vs. OBP to maximize run production? No answer here, just trying to frame a better debate than RISP. Not sure if the in-game thread is the right place, but I'll throw it out there.

I'm not quite sure how you figure 8, 10, and 12 are close to 16. In response to maximizing run production, bumping up our production w/ RISP would certainly help. Less K's (putting the ball in play more, therefor moving runners over, getting sacrifices, etc) would help. We are batting a dismal .189 w/ the bases chucked. There are many ways in which this team leaves runs on the table. We saw it throughout the Cardinals series and the Cubs series. Hopefully the figure this out.

[rluzinski]

When I'm trying to measure a team's ability to manufacture runs, I use this stat called "runs scored". It's unproven but you'll find it does a better job of measuring the total skill of an offense better than BA w/RISP.

 

What BA w/RISP does correlate well with is "FDF (fans disappointment factor). When the bases are loaded with 2 out, we have certain expectations. When a guy pops a 2 run HR with a runner at first, it's a pleasnt surprise.

[yount19.u]

Something is obviously off. I demand a drug test for Rickie after the game.

[Fear The Chorizo]

not gonna say that he hasn't been disappointing in many other facets of the game lately, but Rickie Weeks' bat appears to be waking up a bit...average pushing towards .230 when it was still hovering around .200 a month ago.

[sheethead]

quick question: why on earth is Counsell playing every darned game? We get it. He's a good fielder. Meanwhile he has an OPS of .651 while Branyan is rotting on the bench with a .921 OPS. It'd be nice if Ned could use his brain just once in a while.

Yost overheard Branyan saying NASCAR is for undereducated redneck hillbillies.

 

[secondsith]

is that all counsell can do is ground out softly and maybe once in a while get a seeing eye single. Wow what batting prowess!!

[trwi7]

Hopefully this game makes Ned stop starting Counsell.

[eanelson4]

When I'm trying to measure a team's ability to manufacture runs, I use this stat called "runs scored". It's unproven but you'll find it does a better job of measuring the total skill of an offense better than BA w/RISP.

 

What BA w/RISP does correlate well with is "FDF (fans disappointment factor). When the bases are loaded with 2 out, we have certain expectations. When a guy pops a 2 run HR with a runner at first, it's a pleasnt surprise.

There is somethign to be said about all of that. I think total men left on base would probably be a better way of expressing what I am thinking of. Know anywhere to look this up? (I didn't see it on ESPN).

[IslandsAC]

I really like Cirillo in the booth. I remember thinking the same thing when he had that wrist injury a few years back and spent a couple innings up in the booth. I haven't gotten a chance to see him in his Brewers Live role, but I really enjoy his baseball insight more than Rock's.