8/2/08 Brewers (Sabathia) at Braves (Morton): 2:55 PM CDT

[ELCABALLO45]

I will gladly sell my house to help keep Sabathia in Milwaukee...

[yount19.u]

Wow, how many other Brewer pitchers would have just given in that last at bat and either walked him or thrown up a bp fastball? 12 pitch at bat and CC prevails -- nice!

[TabbertBB]

Whatever gives the Brewers the best chance to win THIS game and not worry about the other games. Especially after the bullpen blows the lead, even though not likely vs. a weak Braves team.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

I will gladly sell my house to help keep Sabathia in Milwaukee...

 

You may be on to something...maybe that's what Mark A is up to in Malibu!!!

[nohopspanther]

Torres hasn't pitched since Monday and I fully trust him to get 3 outs without giving up 3 runs against the Braves.

[crewcrazy]

102 pitches through 8. Brennaman seems to think that Sabathia will be back out there. I think it'd be lunacy to make him throw any more in 90+ degree heat.

 

With that said, Ned'll probably throw him out there to start the 9th again. Ugh.

[Mass Haas]

Let's wear the dark jerseys because of superstition and ignore the fact it's 98 degrees.

The Navy Jerseys are much cooler than the white/gray ones. They have mesh in the armpits and are made of a lighter material. Cool Base

Thank you. Information is cool.

[bklynbrewcrew]

We are abusing CC's arm by letting him throw so many innings. Lets enjoy him while we have him and let someone else pay him 20 mil per season.

[zelouswheeler4prez]

why wouldn't he, i dont' care if his arm falls off after this season, if he doesn't want to sign with us thats fine, we gave up laporta so we could have him for this year. you give up one of the top prospects in the game for a pitcher, you better milk that guy for all its worth.

[thablingster]

"If he (Torres) can't hold a three run lead, then you've got a problem."

 

I hope that isn't a jinxing statement, lol. I have faith Torres can get the job done. I'd just hope Ned doesn't try to get cute and get Gagne or someone else some work.

[Bernman23]

1 more inning would be flat out abuse, you realize his arm could fall off while he's employed by the Brewers, right? I could see if we had a 1-run lead, but 3 runs is comfortable enough to deploy our solid closer Torres.

[GoIrish]

CC is a workhouse and no doubt will want the complete game. If Torres came on and blew it, everyone would scream why we pulled CC. He's looking good, it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[ninja33]

no chance gagne sees the mound unless the brewers put up a few more runs...no one could be dumb enough to pull that one. Im guessing theyll let CC try and finish it and have torres ready to go.

[igor67]

I think more people should read some of Joe Sheehan recent musings about how badly things have swung to far towards under using veteran pitchers. His take home message if they are over 25 don't sweat anything under 120, and 120-130 on rare occasions is not the end of the world. In that context we have not been anywhere close to abusing CC. On some level he's kind of worked himself into that Greg Maddux zone where you can't work the count because you'll get down 0-2, and if you swing too early he can rack up innings with very small pitch counts.

 

Just a further note on abuse Sheehan points out that back in the early 90's and before 130+ starts were common and 140+ starts weren't all that rare just ask Cal eldred.

[ELCABALLO45]

Nice job Cameron

[crewcrazy]

why wouldn't he, i dont' care if his arm falls off after this season, if he doesn't want to sign with us thats fine, we gave up laporta so we could have him for this year. you give up one of the top prospects in the game for a pitcher, you better milk that guy for all its worth.

While I agree that the Brewers certainly have every right to get everything out of Sabathia that they can, they also run the risk of wearing down Sabathia to the point where he's ineffective in September and October. He threw 241 innings for Cleveland in the regular season last year, and was completely ineffective in the playoffs. If the Brewers make the playoffs for the first time in 26 years, I'd prefer that their pitchers haven't logged so many innings that they're useless in October.

I have no problem with keeping him in there for a close game, but a 4-1 lead in the 9th inning against this Braves team is pretty safe. Bring in Torres for some work and let CC rest his arm with a lighter workload.

 

[Trowekamp]

1 more inning would be flat out abuse, you realize his arm could fall off while he's employed by the Brewers, right? I could see if we had a 1-run lead, but 3 runs is comfortable enough to deploy our solid closer Torres.

Well it is not like we are are talking Sheets and Harden here.. I am in the camp to pitch him 9 every start and let the Yankees worry about next year's affects.. Plus he doesn't throw a slider so his pitches put a lot less stress on his arm then say Sheets curve.

 

[giffted1]

CC staying on the bench. Probably a good idea considering the heat.

 

Edit - Nevermind. I guess CC is just slow getting off the bench.

[ELCABALLO45]

I don't mind either way.

[Trowekamp]

I have a feeling that Kapler will be starting in center tomorrow.

[sheethead]

CC back on the mound.

[yount19.u]

Counsell at second instead of Rickie late in the game. Ned is learning.

[JET15]

Is Torres warming up now?

[logan82]

Counsell at second instead of Rickie late in the game. Ned is learning.

Yeah, but Hall is at 3B.

[WV Brew]

Kendall may be the one who is really being overused. 100 games already. He is 34. I know he has caught a lot of games in the past but not too many catchers last long at his age. Ask Posada.