7/24/08 Brewers (Sheets) at Cardinals (Wellemeyer): 7:15 CDT

[afeter]

best series ever

[AdvantageSchneider]

Well since they hit 3 last night, they'd only have to hit 11 more to get to the 14.

 

If I was a cardinals fan I think I'd be a bit more P.O. about the relief pitching than Braun standing at home plate.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Ok, so since I am overseas I dont get to choose which FSN broadcast to watch, I get whatever the AFN gives us. So, I don't know if there was a FSN WI broadcast, I had to watch the Cardnals broadcast.

 

THE BEST ... even BETTER than Braun hitting the homer in the 9th was that the Cardnals Broadcasters gave the STL Closer the "Player of the game" nom, and to quote them, " Were giving _____ the Player of the game right now, and forecasting a double play to end the inning."

 

The VERY NEXT PITCH! Braun hit the homer..... I almost peed myself just listning to the scilence for a couple seconds of the broadcasters!

 

HHAHAHAHA...

 

anyways... Go Crew From Korea!

 

Will somebody please post this on YouTube...I have got to see this.

[ELCABALLO45]

Why would I expect the players I root for to carry themselves any different on the field than off the field in real life? I'm not asking you to believe in the same values I do, by your response I guess you don't believe in and maybe don't practice the concept. That's fine, live your life the way you want, root for your team the way you want. In my opinion many of Braun's HR antics last year were Busch League, and walking to first on a wall scraping HR was Busch League again tonight. I feel very strongly about this and I've benched my own players for similarly misguided efforts as recently as last season.

 

More fantastic logic... why hustle when you're winning the run in the top of the 9th? It's one thing to hit an upper deck shot, it's another when the ball just scrapes over the top of the wall, that was no gimme.

He just hit a huge home run, what do you want him to do? Seriously? Run around the bases as fast as he can? Put his head down and act like it was not a big deal? Well?

It was probably the biggest home run of his career so far, he has always shown emotion, He expects more out of himself and thats how he is.

Your basically saying.. "Shame on you Ryan, dont show emotion and dont be yourself."

Don't give me that crap that I dont live my life with class, its A BASEBALL GAME. I personally did 18 fist pumps myself. And he is the one who hit it. He had every right to be excited about it.

[pitchleague]

for all those thinking the "poor St. Louis fans" thoughts, I feel it's payback for 1998-2007 when the Cards pretty much manhandled the Brewers and us Brewer fans had to suffer through it too.

[sargennm]

Anyone got a link to a Cardinals message board? For studying purposes.

Here

 

http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=554172

I've really enjoyed when Cards fans/media complained about Hall/Braun considering how often they throw at players. Last time I checked, watching an HR for 5 second never injured anyone. Well, except maybe TLR's ego.

 

And then there's this. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=554203

[chadomac]

He just hit a huge home run, what do you want him to do? Seriously? Run around the bases as fast as he can? Put his head down and act like it was not a big deal? Well?

It was probably the biggest home run of his career so far, he has always shown emotion, He expects more out of himself and thats how he is.

Your basically saying.. "Shame on you Ryan, dont show emotion and dont be yourself."

Don't give me that crap that I dont live my life with class, its A BASEBALL GAME. I personally did 18 fist pumps myself. And he is the one who hit it. He had every right to be excited about it.

 

I don't have a huge problem with Braun's trot or anything but I think you're missing the point. The point is that that hit was not a for-sure homerun and Braun should have been bursting out of the box and making sure he got at least a double out of it so that we could continue the inning.

[ELCABALLO45]

I don't have a huge problem with Braun's trot or anything but I think you're missing the point. The point is that that hit was not a for-sure homerun and Braun should have been bursting out of the box and making sure he got at least a double out of it so that we could continue the inning.

But it did go over, He knew it.

[logan82]

I think the last at bat just means the last time a team is up to bat.

[Oldcity]

He couldn't have known it was out when it was only a couple rows up. We've seen players "know" a ball was out, only to have it hit off the wall. If that had happened to Braun it could have cost the Brewers the game.

[ELCABALLO45]

He couldn't have known it was out when it was only a couple rows up. We've seen players "know" a ball was out, only to have it hit off the wall. If that had happened to Braun it could have cost the Brewers the game.

He watched it. The ball went out. He knew it was out.

[iluvlamp]

Braun knew it was out. I knew it was out. Everyone knew it was out.

 

This RT was insane. 7-0! I will sleep well tonight knowing we just slapped the heck out of the cards.

 

AWESOME!

[brewers19]

Pretty much everyone in the stadium knew it was out.

 

And despite what people may say, Cards fans are still nothing but classy.

[Oldcity]

I only knew it was out because of how Braun reacted. I was shocked when it wasn't at least halfway up the bleachers. Seriously elcaballo, have you never seen a guy do that only to have the ball hit the wall? It happens every year.

[GenoSeligPrieb]

I don't know, Stevo. You're entitled to be as angry as you like over Ryan's at bat in the 9th.

 

But migod, he hit a home run...in the 9th...to bring in the tying and winning run...in St. Louis of all places...to give us a 4-game sweep...and a 7-0 road trip...and to add the cherry to this sundae of a game, the Cardinals announcers just had to eat some major crow after declaring Franklin the Player of the Game.

 

It may very well be in the top 5 or 10 Brewer home runs in our history. The only way this is better is if it gets us into 1st place, or if the blast clinched a playoff berth...or better.

 

If you want to dig deeply for reasons to be upset about Ryan's self-assured sense of confidence, then you'll find it anywhere. But please understand that tonight, your side of the aisle is gonna be pretty lonely. Enjoy it, man!

 

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On the edit, I did find something to be mildly terse about tonight:

 

ESPN blew through the Brewer highlights, for perhaps 20 seconds, and focused the next 3 minutes-plus on the Yankees. We've always been told that the Brewers will get the attention from the national media when they started deserving it...by winning. Fair enough. But a 4-game sweep against St. Louis, a team we were trailing on Sunday, a Wild Card contender themselves. You'd think that would warrant more than a cursory highlight.

 

I still wish another network, FoxSports, CNN, Versus, hell, C-Span...ANYONE ELSE would start up a rival, nightly sports newscast, so we can get some fairer reporting. Oh well, I just remembered Pujols hanging his head again, and I'm back to ecstatic!

[ELCABALLO45]

Stevo we obviously dont agree. I knew it was gone the way it sounded off the bat. Everyone in the stadium knew it was gone. The pitcher knew it was gone.

 

It was gone.

 

Lets just enjoy a crazy come from behind victroy for the crew!

[Oldcity]

I have a much bigger problem with the fact that it could have cost the team the game if the ball was a few feet shorter than the fact I think it's bush league. I do think it's bush league, but guys stare at homers all the time, so that's not the end of the world.

 

Alright, yeah let's just agree to disagree. Amazing series.

[crewcrazy]

Just an incredible series. The biggest difference between this year's team and last year's team, aside from the sudden success on the road -- whenever the team got down early last year, I had next to no hope of coming back late in the game. Even though Sheets gave up a couple runs early tonight and that error by Hart really stunk, I had no doubts that this team would make a comeback. Absolutely incredible.

 

Apparently, Wellemeyer and LaRussa spent most of the postgame show on FSN Midwest complaining about the strike zone. I don't know what Wellemeyer's complaining about -- in that inning where he threw 42 pitches, none of them were really borderline calls. He just stunk. The zone got a little bigger for Torres in the 9th, but Ludwick & Co. shouldn't be standing there with the bat on their shoulders on 0-2 when they're down by 1 in the 9th. LaRussa basically said "We got beat." and didn't say much more -- a Cards reporter asked him about something else and LaRussa followed it up by saying "This is one of those times where I'm not saying anything to avoid getting into trouble. I'm leaving it at that."

 

This was a huge loss for the Cards -- they came into the series on a 5-game win streak, and have now dropped 4 straight. At home. 3 of the 4 coming in the 9th inning or later. And now they get to go to New York, who's like 9-1 in their past 10 home games with a 1.33 starter ERA. Then they get to go to Atlanta, who's still very good at home despite being a horrible road team. Once they get back home, they get to play the Phillies and Cubs.

 

There's a chance the Brewers could have effectively killed the Cards' season with this sweep, barring a huge trade to get them back in it. How freaking cool is that?

[ELCABALLO45]

Yes lets agree to disagree, we are both Brewer fans. Lets act like them http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

GO BREWERS!!! What a amazing series!

[Oldcity]

I agree there's a very good chance this broke the Cards' backs. They aren't as talented as the Brewers to begin with, and a three game lead is more than a slight edge. Awesome, awesome series.

[endaround]

I'm pretty sure the last at bat could be the 8th at home if the Brewers take the lead then-its BA's way of juicing things more than they need to be and confusing everybody who thinks he's talking about walk off wins.

[crewcrazy]

ESPN blew through the Brewer highlights, for perhaps 20 seconds, and focused the next 3 minutes-plus on the Yankees. We've always been told that the Brewers will get the attention from the national media when they started deserving it...by winning. Fair enough. But a 4-game sweep against St. Louis, a team we were trailing on Sunday, a Wild Card contender themselves. You'd think that would warrant more than a cursory highlight.

I saw a pretty decent highlight package featuring the game at the start of SportsCenter after they got done with the Cubs highlights -- they showed Ankiel's RBI in the first, Ludwick's diving catch to rob Sheets with the bases loaded, Wellemeyer's liner down the line that got past Hart, Hart grounding into the double play to end the 7th and kill a rally, Braun's HR, and Torres' game-ending strikeout. I thought it was a pretty decent highlight package -- maybe you saw a different part of SportsCenter? The Yankees hype doesn't surprise me, though -- this is the eve of another Yankees/Red Sox series, so most of their coverage tonight was probably geared towards that.

The Cards/Brewers series has been getting a lot of love on ESPNEWS all week, though -- their "ESPN Pregame" show does a pretty solid job of previewing the day's games every day, and each day they have a fan poll to decide which game gets highlighted -- the Brews/Cards game won every time this week ahead of Mets/Phillies, IIRC, so they spent a lot of time interviewing people who cover the Brewers (Haudricourt, people from the local radio stations, etc.). The anchors hosting the thing do their homework, too, giving the Brewers a lot of love for being the only NL team left undefeated after the break.

 

I'm slowly noticing more love on the parent network, though -- tonight Buck Showalter picked the Brewers to win the NL Central, on 1st and 10 they debated whether or not the Brewers were the best team in the National League, and Tim Kurkjian gave the Brewers a lot of love on Mike & Mike this morning. It's definitely cool to see.

[moofnelson]

Tim Kurkjian gave the Brewers a lot of love on Mike & Mike this morning. It's definitely cool to see.

 

They were actually talking about the Sabathia trade, and wondering if it was the best in season pickup ever.

[owbc]

I agree with the comment about Cardinals fans being the most classy in baseball.

 

Their bullpen has been terrible and they blew it again, but you didn't hear any booing in the stadium, just deathly silence.

 

I think the emptyness of 42,000 people sitting silently in their seats sends the same message as Brewers fans booing loudly after our relief pitching gives up runs.

[Glennron]

They were booing loudly after the game ended. I suppose it could've been directed at the umpire, as Wellemeyer/Glaus/Ludwick all showed displeasure throughout the night. Then again, the guy was pretty bad to both teams.

 

on 1st and 10 they debated whether or not the Brewers were the best team in the National League

 

Was that the one that Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless were on? I know Bayless is probably there to be "controversial" (an idiot), but he called CC "CC Gasol" cause the Brewers ripped off Cleveland like the Lakers to the Grizzlies. "They gave him up for only what, the second best player in AA?!" He then commented that they traded for Ray Durham because they were tired of Bill Hall's production.