What part of the CC Sabathia Trade Thread violated the below?

[Trowekamp]

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So I am not sure why the BF.net version of the Patriot was implemented. I did see one incident where someone accidentally posted content and then apologized later and explained it as a mistake.

 

I was some one-liners but earlier there was a warning to be more brief with quotes and so forth so that is somewhat contradictory.. also it is lively discussion.

 

Finally I can only think the "repetitive" posting is in play..which I can understand however some of the problem is that people are posting updates of articles / tv which are re-hashing so that is part of that.. also in 61 pages how do you not have repeat type of activities?

 

I think this was poorly done and communicated and I understand the need to keep this site a welcoming place for fans but my biggest concern is that fans are respectful of each other which to me the entire 61 pages was. This should be an example of how to be civil when opions widely vary on a passionate topic.

 

Trying to scare members from posting seems to go against what the site stands for.

 

[SeriesFinale]

When I saw it was locked I assumed the trade went down finally and raced to the Major League forum

 

On the other hand, I'm kinda glad it was locked because with every two-three line post people made about what they wanted/didn't want and/or how they were excited about the possibility (posts I was VERY guilty of, especially late at night, ahem), I refreshed and checked in automatically because I thought it might be actual news.

 

Which begs the question: don't the pageviews add to advertising revenue? or does it just cost much more in bandwidth? Or is it merely about "keeping Brewerfan beautiful"? (Which I also understand and appreciate)

 

I've got no horse in this one; I'm just curious.

[Trowekamp]

I agree I was confused and curious..

 

You make a good point about feeling the need to refresh... however, personally since there basically has been very little news the last 24 hours it has been a nice outlet to hear a discussion that was passionate but didn't delve into personal attacks like so many others on the Internet. That level of respectfulness is one of the main reasons I frequent this site.

 

I acknowledge that the moderators have the right to lock threads they deem outside the appropriate use. My concerns is that it will drive away Brewer fans that I have enjoying conversing with.

 

I looked through the rules and from my interpretation the thread was appropriate though I admit I only read about 3/4 of the posts.

 

On a personal note, earlier in the thread I implemented a new BF.Net rule that if it reached a 100 pages that trade would be forced to go through to meet the will of the people so I should state that in the interest of full disclosure.

[SeriesFinale]

I admit I didn't care for the tone : "We're taking away your ball for a while so you can sit in the corner and think about what you've done." I don't like being talked to like a child and I didn't think the occasion required it. There was good reason to shut it down for a while, but admonishments to "read and reread" the terms of use seemed unnecessary. We're all adults here.

[And That]

I apologize if anyone though they were being talked to like a child... I have a newborn, so maybe I'm predisposed to talking to small children.

 

The point was, that thread is already one of, if not the, longest in Brewerfan's history. People, especially new visitors to the site, that come across that thread may think that we are rather a bit too eloquent in our opinions. Many people have posted many opinions, and many of those opinions have been redundant. I would say, strive to post new thoughts with each new post.

 

Then there's the issue of nested quotes. There are so many superfluous quotes in that thread, I can't even count them. Quote what you need to quote. Unnecessary quotes make the thread even longer to read than it should be. I don't know how else to repost it, yet it seems to be a running problem.

[SeriesFinale]

Yeah, I apologize for sounding harsher than I meant to there And That...your tone was really a minor thing and ultimately irrelevant to the issue at hand. I understand.

[TheCrew07]

There are still many people that don't chop up their quotes which is annoying.

 

Way too many 1 liners about nothing.

 

I agree with the mods that because of the fast paced nature of the thread people were treating it like an in game thread. It went from a thread with great discussion to a thread lacking substance in a hurry. How many "what's new?", "this is exciting", "when is the deal going to happen?" posts do you need?

[1992casey]

I don't recall seeing anything in the thread that would have warranted a strike or official warning under Brewerfan's rules and moderating procedures. But there was oodles of stuff in there that the mods generally try to handle outside the discipline system.

 

Ideally, for stuff like that, mods will do one or more of the following: editing posts, leaving a notation on the post itself, sending a friendly PM, or posting an in-thread message.

 

Given the quantity of posts, in-thread reminders of a general nature were really the only viable alternative. There were several of those today from various mods, and people didn't seem to be seeing them. Locking down the thread for an hour assured that people who visited during that time saw at least one of those messages.

 

The intent certainly wasn't to scare people from posting. However, when considering "what the site stands for," quality certainly beats quantity.

[TooLiveBrew]

Yeah, certainly was a gray area, but that rumors thread probably would have been about half as long as it got with most of the one-liners taken out.

 

I certainly tried to not just post one-liners, but I bet I was guilty too in there.

[brewizard]

We were all guilty of one-liners. I posted only once, a one-liner, which was my sly way of commenting on how it was, in the words of one moderator, 'one of, if not the, longest [threads] in Brewerfan's history.' I saw no warnings from 'mad'erators. (I kid because I love...)

 

Anyway, my post was deleted. I'd like to have commented on the CC trade, but the whole thread is just too unwieldy.

 

Oh well.

[1e Corbeau]

While I totally think it's appropriate to raise this concern, I personally am totally fine with the hour lock on that thread, as I think it was consistent with the below:

Try not to be repetitive. It doesn't take long for an initially interesting topic to turn into a dead-horse beating session. Site staff will lock threads that they believe duplicate an existing discussion.

Go light on 'one-liner' posts. We don't rule out all brief comments, especially in the chat room and in-game threads; but a constant stream of snarky one-liners detracts from the forum's quality and will not win you many fans. Pick your spots for posting, and add something back into the site, instead of just chiming in on every thread because it's there.

I, too, come for the information and discourse, but I hope for nuanced comments, opinions and analyses. In that thread, new information was my premium. It was annoying to see people ask the same questions repeatedly, a result of not checking back a page or three. And while one-liners can be funny at times to different people, it just doesn't add much, in my opinion. In general, I think the mods do a very admirable job of knowing when to clamp those. It isn't easy, I'm sure, but it's appreciated. (Sometimes, I think "more-established" posters get the benefit more than "newer" folks, but I digress.)

That said, I can always skip over the avatars I can reasonably guess aren't adding anything to the discussion.

I wish Yuku had a hide feature and a "rec" comment feature, too. It could make BF feel like more of a friendly place without the need to say, "yeah, I agree with what XXXXX said" as much.

[1992casey]

Members have an ignore feature available. Look in the Interact menu on the left side of each post.

 

Messages posted by members on ignore will automatically be collapsed when a thread is opened. If you get curious about an individual message, you can uncollapse an individual message by clicking on plus symbol.

 

What's a "rec" comment feature?

[1e Corbeau]

Recommend a comment. It's a way to "vote up" or show a support for a comment. The one I'm picturing has an appearance of [+22/ -3], which would indicate 22 users recommending a comment or post and 3 users hiding the post. (In this case, hiding would be on a per comment basis, rather than a global hide user.)

 

Some Scoop powered collaborative blogs have this feature. I can't say I've actually seen it in a forum setting, but I don't visit any besides BF.net and a Ning community I created for bibliophiles.

 

edit: and my "Interact" feature isn't working in Safari 3.1.1 with OS X 10.5.3...

[1992casey]

Interesting.

 

I just checked in Safari 3.1.1 / OS X 10.5.3 and the Interact menu drops down just fine. Are you sure the page fully loaded? When I clicked a bit early, it didn't open.

 

Interestingly, however, the dropdown menus at the bottom of the page don't work while the ones at the top are fine.

[logan82]

I admit I really didn't add anything to those threads. I really got burned out reading through them trying to find scraps of useful information. Lesson learned, I hope.