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Since going 24-10 to start the season, they've gone 30-32.

 

And the sum of that is 54-42. 12 games above .500. Seems pretty good to me. Much better than your prediction that you seem to be patting yourself on the back with for some reason.

 

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic.

 

Well that's good, because in reality the Brewers are way better off than your negative prediction.

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Ya I don't understand all the doubting. We have a competitive team, and it may come down to the wire, but I believe we have a team that can make the playoffs one way or the other. Sure there's holes, but find a team that doesn't have holes. A lot of people point to the sometimes less than stellar pitching, but every single team is looking for pitching right now too, and there just aren't extra arms to be had.

 

We've gotten this far and its been a lot of fun, don't start second guessing the team now, have some faith.

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yeah, I'm not in "worry" mode yet. The Cubs are gaining slowly, but there's not much the Brewers can do or could've done about that. We've been winning at a decent clip since that 10-20 stretch (off hand I think we're 20-12 since then?). If the Cubs keep winning at a .750 clip then deserve the division, but I have to believe 88-90 wins has a great shot at the wild card (for either team). The Brewers would need to play .500 the rest of the way to hit 88 wins.
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.500 the remainder would be 87 wins, but I agree with your general premise. I do think that looking at the West, it's going to take 90 to get the wild card. That would be slightly over .500 ball for the Brewers, Mets, Padres, Dodgers. You have to think 2 of those 4 teams will play better than .500 the rest of the way.

 

And people keep saying the Cubs will fall off, well I sure hope those people start becoming right very soon.

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For all love the west gets, it really is not that impressive. Arizona and San Fran are not good at all, LA and San Diego have pretty bad offenses and great pitching. But they run into problems when they dont score runs and that has been happening lately. There will be alot of divisional play coming up here and things may change a bit. Before I get all up in arms I am going to wait a couple weeks and see the crew and the cubs do over that time. Cubs have to slow down right? It the first time most of us have dealt with this and while I am getting a bit nervous, we have played pretty well and the cubs are simply playing unreal baseball right now. But things will slow down and it should get really good in august here.
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I believe the Cubs have won 19 of 23 which is like .826 winning percentage. Extrapolate that out to a full season and its 133 wins. There's no way in high Hades they keep this up.
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The reason for the original post was mainly out of frustration from last night's game.

 

I and many others have changed our expectations for this team, from just hoping to be competitive to expecting a division championship. After waiting for so long for a playoff caliber team and finally seeing it come this year I just don't want to see this team fall short. Especially to the stinking Cubs!

 

The Brewers will continue to have good teams in the future basically due to the fact they probably have the best young talent in the National League. There are many reasons to remain optimistic but I don't know if I have the ability to just sit back and enjoy the ride as some of you have suggested.

 

I think I will order a case of Pepto Bismol and keep my fingers crossed......GO BREWERS!

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Personally, I think the rest of this year is going to be a blast, other than last year where we were pretty close to making it a race with St. Louis but then went on that streak, we haven't even been in a position to be in first place by 2.5 games with only about a little more than two months left in the season.

 

We know the Cubs can't keep up the pace they've been on since the fight and we know the Brewers are decent enough this year to keep things interesting.

 

The Brewers will lose games, can't complain after every single loss. I think we're in for two of the most exciting months of Brewers baseball in years and years and we should probably all enjoy it while we can.

 

Besides, who wants to just run away with the division anyways? This way I'll hopefully have something to keep me away from classes once September comes around.

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The Cubs started their little hot-streak on June 3, the day after Pinella was ejected for going slightly nuts.

 

Since that day, the Cubs are 29-13 (.690 winning pct), which over the course of a full season is 112-50. If they continue to win at that rate for the rest of the year, they'll end up with a 97-65 record.

 

During that same span, the Brewers are 23-17 (.575), which over the course of a full season is 93-69. If they continue to win at that rate for the rest of the year, they will finish with a 92-70 record.

 

The first thing that jumped out at me is the Brewers are not playing poorly, but rather they are playing very well. If they finish with between 90-95 wins, that is an incredible season for a team that only won 75 games the year before.

 

The second thing I noticed, which sounds obvious, is the fact that the Cubs gained five games on the Brewers is much more the result of the Cubs incredible run than anything the Brewers have done. When a team wins nearly 70% of their games over the course of 42 games it would take a small miracle to not lose ground to them.

 

Am I real happy with the Brewers lead shrinking like it has? Not really, but I am also not all that upset with how the Brewers have been playing. It would have been nice to get a few extra wins here or there, but overall this team is still winning at a high rate.

 

Either the Cubs will cool down some, or, if they don't, they will probably win the division (unless Milwaukee can go something like 44-22 over their last 66 games to get them to 98 wins).

 

But, if the Cubs stay hot and do win the division, and the Brewers continue to win as they have, I do believe that 92 wins will give then an excellent chance at the wild card. That's a nice little consolation prize for a team that hasn't had a post season game in 25 years.

Chris

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I would like to run away with the division, personally. I would think the majority of Brewer fans agree.

 

But we're going to run away with the division next year, so this year might as well be close so we get a taste of both.

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The first thing that jumped out at me is the Brewers are not playing poorly, but rather they are playing very well.

 

It doesn't matter. If the Cubs are playing better, that means the Brewers aren't playing well. Aren't you paying attention?

 

When did the Brewer fan base decide that anything less than a 10 game lead in the Central unacceptable?

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Whether we like it or not, the Cubs are coming. But let's be honest, did we all really think this team was going to run away with the division?

 

We have an incredibly talented team. With the current players that we have on this team, we should win 87-95 games for the next 4-5 years. Given the fact that this team is still incredibly young, I am willing to accept that this in fact may not be the season that they win the division. This is not to say that I am being a pessimist, because I believed that the Brewers would win 87-90 games this season, but I really will not be all that disappointed if this team does win 87-90 games and doesn't win the division. Yes it will stink to not get to the playoffs, but come on guys....We have an extremely bright future, and a window of opportunity to win the World Series that is just opening this season.

 

If after the next 4-5 seasons, we don't win the division multiple times, and go to the World Series at least once, than I will be disappointed.

 

Plus whose future would you rather have?

 

-Braun, Hardy, Weeks, Fielder or Ramirez, Theriot, Fontenot, Lee?

-Gwynn, Hart, Hall or Soriano, Pagan, Pie?

 

We are in great shape fellas.

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The Brewers are in a legit pennant race for the first time in roughly 25 years and it seems like few are enjoying it,i don't get it.

 

Well said.

 

Honestly, when we were up by 8.5 or 9.5, I felt myself not needing to catch every game. I got complacent and was just waiting for the playoffs.

 

Now, with the gap narrowing, I turn on Cubs games as well as our games, yell at every Prince groundout, curse at the gods that made Rich Hill, Jason Marquis and Ted Lilly competent, and go to bed sobbing after yet another game comes off our lead.

 

AND I'M LOVING IT. BRING IT ON.

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I really thing this is very fun and we (as Brewer fans) are not used to success. I am guilty as charged. i overreact many times to situations that happen in baseball when they happen badly to my team. A lot of times i will be very negative because I think as a society we cling to negativity sometimes. It just sucks that I am right on my negativity so much this season.

 

I really think the Brewers are more talented than the Cubs. i really think to get themselves over the hump that they need to prove that they can do things under pressure. For example, a nice 9th inning comeback would be nice and would give this team confidence that they can do it. Right now, if the Brewers are losing after 6 innings, the game is basically over. The Cubs are definitely better in this category than the Crew. They (Cubs) BELIEVE they can comeback anytime and are clutch. We need that mentality.

 

Overall, I think that this season has been a blast. I just hope that a couple little things get turned around before they become too major.

 

Also, please refrain as fans to being too negative, but at the same time "too positive." Sometimes overpositive fans bring out the negative in a lot of us-including me.

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Piniella, he's a dead man! Soriano, dead! Zam-bra-no...

 

 

Dead. Splitter's right.....psychotic, but absolutely right.

 

Now, we could fight the Cubs (and their fans) with conventional weapons, but that could take years, and cost millions of lives......

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For example, a nice 9th inning comeback would be nice and would give this team confidence that they can do it. Right now, if the Brewers are losing after 6 innings, the game is basically over.

 

It has more to do with Brewer fans needing more confidence, which is really what this thread is all about. From everything the players and management says, they are very confident in this team. I really doubt that the players assume they are going to lose a game that they are trailing late in.

 

Heck, I've heard fans complain that the Brewers don't panic during losing streaks. "How can they remain calm!? Don't they realize that their lead is slipping away!?"

 

The Cubs are definitely better in this category than the Crew. They (Cubs) BELIEVE they can comeback anytime and are clutch. We need that mentality.

 

And when the Cubs were something like 0-9 in 1 run games to the start the season, all I heard was that the Cubs simply didn't know how to win the close games. How ironic.

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What the heck happened to the Brewerfan.net I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh?

 

What, grousing about how lousy the team is has been a fundamental component of BF.net since Day One!

 

But in all seriousness, maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves here in general. Rather than taking a Yankees "If we're not ten games up on our evil rivals, we're not doing a good enough job" mindset, we need to just sit back and enjoy what this team has given and (hopefully) will continue to give us fans this year, and hopefully for years to come.

 

While this should be the first year of a long run of success, we can't act like it's going to be the ONLY year. 25 years of not being in the playoffs has jaded the fan base; heck, I was 21 months old when the Brewers were last in the World Series... and my brother was BORN during the World Series. My parents still haven't forgiven him for this (I kid, I kid). Yet we all still believe that at some point, we will see our beloved Brewers in the playoffs.

 

I still believe. Come join me and enjoy the ridehttp://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

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Since going 24-10 to start the season, they've gone 30-32.

 

Let's look a little deeper. After the 24-10 start the Brewers had a 10-20 slump, bringing their record to 34-30. Since then the Brewers have gone 22-15, pending today's game.

 

Here's the thing: The Brewers lead in the division has been slowly slipping away over the past month. They struggle on the road and recently they have had a hard time crossing home plate. Even worse is that the Cubs have been playing like a team possessed.

 

There is reason to be worried for this season, but I think it's more important to look at THE BIG PICTURE. This team is built for the long haul and should contend for the next 3-5 seasons. If it doesn't happen this year we can look forward to 2008.

 

As Crispin Glover said, Big Problem Does Not Equal the Solution. The Solution = Let It Be.

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