Trading with Baltimore

[brewerfan82]

I think that Roberts for Weeks straight up makes sense for both teams.. from Milwaukee's side they get:

 

- Upgrade defensively

- A true lead-off hitter

- Clutch player

- 2 draft picks when Roberts signs with the Cubs in the off-season
- Open spot for Escobar in 2009
- Extra money to attempt to sign Sheets, Hart, Sabathia, etc..

 

For Baltimore the get:

 

- 3 years of arbitration

- a superb athlete. I keep thinking Weeks could follow a Sheffield career path.

- a possible middle of the order hitter at 2b.

 

 

I think it is more risky from a Baltimore perspective which is why it won't happen but they need to take some chances to compete in that division.

 

Actually, Roberts is signed through next year at $8mil in 2009, which is more than fine with me if we trade for him.

 

[Trowekamp]

Actually, Roberts is signed through next year at $8mil in 2009, which is more than fine with me if we trade for him.

 

 

My bad.. thanks for the clarification.. I agree this makes it even better as we can bring escobar up to be the utility IF and have an option if Bill Hall continues to pull a Turnbow..

[DonMoney4Mgr]

I thought Rosenthal reported a few weeks ago that the Orioles offered Weeks for Roberts straight up and Melvin turned it down. At least that is what Ken Rosenthal reported. I wouldn't do it just for the fact that I bet the Indians would love to have Brandon Phillips back and that is what Weeks will be in 2 years.

What happened with Phillips is pretty rare. Weeks IMO is hurting this team right now and shows no sign of ever being what we thought he would be. If the Brewers are considering trading big time prospects for a rental pitcher, then Melvin should of made that trade in a heartbeat. Roberts is not only better, but by a significant margin. With Roberts and Sabathia, we're in the playoffs.

[TheCrew07]

JJ can play short for quite a few MLB teams. I'm unsure why he gets sold so short around here. It appears that he lost a step after his ankle injury, but he has great instincts and a very solid & accurate arm. I'd rather dump Weeks and move him to 2nd, but I'm not opposed to moving Hardy for pitching.

[smbrewersfan15]

While Weeks shows signs of life every once in a while, we clearly need an upgrade at second base. If they can get Roberts for him, by all means get it done Doug. We are going for the playoffs. We aren't the 2004 version of the Brewers where we can continually keep a guy and hope he gets better. Sigh, but alas I have a feeling this isn't something Melvin will do.

[reillymcshane]

I love Weeks' ability and potential.

 

That said, Brian Roberts at the top of the lineup would really be awesome. You just wonder if Rickie will ever put it all together - between defensive issues, all the Ks, injuries, struggles with right handers - I guess I'd have to say if you could get Roberts, you do. I just don't know if Baltimore would do it. Roberts would bring high OBP and is a switch hitter - things this club could really use. I don't know how his defense is, but I doubt it's no worse than Rickie's.

 

If you could get him, he'd be perfect for next year too (I believe that's how long his contract runs), allowing you to not rush Escobar to put him AAA in 2009, then make a decision in 2010 on what you do with Hardy.

 

I will be honest, I wonder if Weeks is best put into a lower, power slot - 3-5 - and let him just swing away - and not forced into a leadoff role. He seems like he has that ability - just a gut feeling.

[paulmolitor4]

Call me crazy, but I think acquiring Roberts would help the Brewers even more than picking up Sabathia. This team so desperately needs that consistent table-setter at the top of the order. He would make an impact every game, whereas Sabathia is only every fifth day. Of course, once you get to the playoffs (if you do) Sabathia is huge (no pun intended). For some reason this move seems to fall into the "to good to be true" category, as I think Melvin/Yost want to hang on to Weeks for chemistry/potential reasons. Enough is enough though, it's time to make a run. C'mon Dougie pull the trigger. Please!

[yount19.u]

paulmolitor4[/b]]Call me crazy, but I think acquiring Roberts would help the Brewers even more than picking up Sabathia. This team so desperately needs that consistent table-setter at the top of the order. He would make an impact every game, whereas Sabathia is only every fifth day. Of course, once you get to the playoffs (if you do) Sabathia is huge (no pun intended). For some reason this move seems to fall into the "to good to be true" category, as I think Melvin/Yost want to hang on to Weeks for chemistry/potential reasons. Enough is enough though, it's time to make a run. C'mon Dougie pull the trigger. Please!

My thoughts exactly. Weeks is a liability at this point and waiting for his potential to come around may be futile. Roberts would be an upgrade across the board and finally give the lineup the spark up front it so desperately needs. Imagine having a lead-off hitter not pop up or strike out all the time. Oh how I love to dream.

[Postseason2006]

Can we all quit talking about Weeks ability and potential? How many games does that win vs performance? This guy may have "potential" but will it ever show?

[silversurferr]

I like Weeks, but he is not Brandon Phillips. Weeks shows an amazing ability to avoid contact, which will limit him in developing his hitting potential. He reminds me more of Corey Patterson; Though they have different swings, they have great speed and power potential, but just cannot put it all together.

[PeaveyFury]

Roberts would be such an insanely huge upgrade from Weeks at this point, it's not even funny. The Brewers really need to make an upgrade at 2nd, as Weeks is hurting the team at this point.

[BrewCrewForever]

Roberts would be such an insanely huge upgrade from Weeks at this point, it's not even funny. The Brewers really need to make an upgrade at 2nd, as Weeks is hurting the team at this point.

Totally agree, and you know I would trade Weeks for Roberts straight up if the O's would. Sure Weeks has "potential" and "upside" but Roberts is already good and not all that old. Still has a lot of ball left. Why not get it done Doug!

[ELCABALLO45]

How many years does Roberts have on his contract? Not that I care because I want him no matter what.

[PeaveyFury]

Roberts would be a free agent after 2009.

[ELCABALLO45]

Thank you, that makes me want to get him more.

 

He would be a HUGE upgrade over Weeks.

 

He plays better defense, better baserunner, better hitter.

 

He would also I think help the offense by just being able to get on base when we are having on of these bad spells on offense.

 

Its safe to say I really really want him

[yount19.u]

Its safe to say I really really want him

But what if he's married? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[BrewCrewForever]

Roberts would be a free agent after 2009.

Oh man, so we could have him the rest of this season and next season. I totally hope we can swing a deal for him. And who is to say we couldn't have him past 2009 and maybe extend him.

 

[splitterpfj]

I doubt the Brewers will add Roberts this month, but if he's still with Baltimore in the off-season, they may match up at that point.

 

You would have to assume Weeks would be in the deal, but he wouldn't be the reason Baltimore made the move. You'd have to add a top prospect to get their attention, and the position they're trying to fill at the moment is shortstop.

 

First off - would you give Hardy or Escobar to bring in Roberts? If you would, and then Weeks is in the deal too, what do you want added to the trade from Baltimore, and would they even do it?

 

Even if the Orioles would take something besides a shortstop, you're still looking at a top five prospect within the organization, or maybe two of the top fifteen to make this happen. The Orioles know how good he is, they know that several teams could use him, and they know he's controlled for one more year - they would absolutely call the shots in any deal at this point.

 

I think a different second baseman is far more likely, which is why you'll probably keep hearing names like Ray Durham. I'm all for adding Roberts, but be ready to pay for him.

[BrewCrewForever]

I guess if we had to add Hardy or Escobar I'm not sure I would make the move. If it was someone else in AA or something then maybe. Now, if it was Roberts and Sherrill for Weeks and Hardy or Escobar then I might listen.

[southpaw121505]

I'd do Weeks and Salome for Roberts and a pitching prospect or a bullpen arm. I really like Lucroy so that makes Salome somewhat expendable to me, and his value should be pretty high right now. Would Salome and Weeks bring us a solid arm back with Roberts or is that asking too much?

[BrewCrewForever]

I to would part with Weeks and Salome for Roberts and a good arm, even if it's not Sherrill.

[GB12]

Roberts is exactly what we need and would make us a serious World Series contender. Even with Sabathia I don't think we can win the World Series. He'd be an upgrade at second and a huge upgrade as a lead off hitter. I've been a pretty big Weeks fan, but it's time to move on. If we're going to win it all Rickie can't be our lead off man.

 

 

Also I'd say do what it takes to get Roberts in Milwaukee. By trading for Sabathia we said we're going for it. Why not make it more of a possibility if the option is out there. Weeks, Salome, and a lower prospect could probably get him. That wouldn't even hurt our future much if at all. We have two other strong catching prospects still and we'd have Roberts in 2009 as well. As long as we don't give up one of the big 3 do whatever it takes.

[PeaveyFury]

I'd do Weeks and Salome for Roberts and a pitching prospect or a bullpen arm.

 

Weeks/Salome/Gwynn/A-Ball prospect for Roberts and Chad Bradford probably would work well for both teams, I'd think.

[BrewCrewForever]

I'd do Weeks and Salome for Roberts and a pitching prospect or a bullpen arm.

 

Weeks/Salome/Gwynn/A-Ball prospect for Roberts and Chad Bradford probably would work well for both teams, I'd think.

Pull the trigger Doug!

 

[shelmark]

Um, the Orioles have this guy named Wieters that seems like he could be ok at C, so they would have little to no interest in Salome. You would have to deal Escobar or Gamel to get Roberts, as I don't believe Baltimore is really that motivated to trade him.