6/13/08 Twins (Slowey) at Brewers (Bush): 7:05 PM CDT

[TooLiveBrew]

The ump had to be basically in the coach's position to see that particular play. On the replay, his positioning didn't look as bad, but I still think his view was obscured

[moofnelson]

He looked out to me.

 

Me too. Schroeder made it sound like Fielder was sitting on the bag eating a popsicle when the third baseman put the tag on him.

[TooLiveBrew]

That was another 'ball beat him, therefore he's probably out' call. I swear those are coinflips as to safe/out. If I had the access, I'd love to run those results. Don't know where I'd get that video access. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

 

ROCK WITH THE VADER REFERENCE! I don't care that he applied it terribly, that will be remembered!

[Glennron]

Nice blatant homerism by Bill. For one he looked out, and even if he wasn't it was extremely close. Him calling it a "terrible" call makes him sound like an ass.

[Bruce Ciskie]

The ump had to be basically in the coach's position to see that particular play. On the replay, his positioning didn't look as bad, but I still think his view was obscured

 

Exactly. He assumed the tag was there because the throw was.

 

You never assume anything. If you don't see the tag, you have to act as if it didn't happen. No single position is going to give the ump a chance to see 100% of the possible angles on a play like that. His mistake was assuming something happened that he didn't see.

[TooLiveBrew]

You never assume anything. If you don't see the tag, you have to act as if it didn't happen.

 

Why it's a 'coin toss' in my eyes is that you have to make the choice on that kind of call to assume something you didn't see -- either direction. If you call him out there, you definitely second-guess yourself as to whether or not he was tagged. If you go 'safe', you second-guess whether or not he was tagged. Crappy call for an ump to have to make.

 

 

Love the work by Bush so far.

[TooLiveBrew]

Nice to hear that the boos have gone away for Billy. That makes me happy.

[Bruce Ciskie]

Great. We're making another bad Twins pitcher look like Cy Young. Nothing like letting a bum only have to face the minimum through three innings.

 

Fabulous.

[TooLiveBrew]

If it makes you feel more confident, the third time through a lineup is where most SP suffer in terms of #s

[logan82]

Charlie Reliford, third biggest strike zone.

[Yeti73]

This just seems like one of those games where we just give up at the plate and have no umph. We are a team that feeds off of momentum (all teams are) but we often just fold against goof ball pitchers like Slowly.

[TooLiveBrew]

logan, that 'zone of their own' article was a great find.

[TooLiveBrew]

Craig Counsell: proof that not just anybody can go yoke up on 'roids & go be a star (no, that's not calling him a 'roider)

[Yeti73]

We just need one homer to get going. I'd love a golf home run here for Braunie here.

[TooLiveBrew]

Wow, where was Hall on that? Just too far to go, huh

[trwi7]

Fielder has to cover first on that play.

[TooLiveBrew]

Yeah, that was pretty bad from Prince. He means well, therefore I love him. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[danzig6767]

This just seems like one of those games where we just give up at the plate and have no umph. We are a team that feeds off of momentum (all teams are) but we often just fold against goof ball pitchers like Slowly.

The Twins aren't exactly doing much at the plate either while facing 5.50 ERA Dave Bush. They hit one ball hard all game and were lucky that an error left a runner on base for the ball hit by Mauer.

Watching both guys pitch, both Slowey and Bush look very similar. High 80's straight fastball and mediocre stuff overall, needing great command each night to get outs.

 

[Bruce Ciskie]

I hate the way we handle pitchers we're not terribly familiar with, especially slop-throwers like Slowey.

 

Seriously, do we have advance scouts?

[MadisonBrewerBlue]

we need to bunt back

[owbc]

I have a bad feeling about this situation. Please prove me wrong.

[Bruce Ciskie]

The Twins aren't exactly doing much at the plate either while facing 5.50 ERA Dave Bush. They hit one ball hard all game and were lucky that an error left a runner on base for the ball hit by Mauer.

Watching both guys pitch, both Slowey and Bush look very similar. High 80's straight fastball and mediocre stuff overall, needing great command each night to get outs.

 

 

I do think they're similar, but what annoys me is that we always do this with guys we don't know well. It's as if the scouting people aren't doing their jobs to prepare the hitters.

 

In the case of Bush, we're always holding our breath waiting for the meltdown. Slowey isn't exactly like that, but he has the "Bushesque meltdown" in him. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[owbc]

And 30 seconds later...3-0. Figures.

[HurricaneBraun]

David Bush=crap.

[trwi7]

Hang another curve Bush. Maybe they'll hit it into Lake Michigan.