I want Prince to Kick Vegetarianism Thread

[Brian the Automator]

Exactly, I'm not saying that his diet is the only thing causing his swing, power, etc. to be off so far this year. I just think it's a factor to consider.

 

I think the only factor to consider there would be psychological, and I think even that's a stretch. Protein is protein is protein... If he's getting the correct nutrients, it doesn't matter what the source is. I stopped eating meat for 3 months, and I had no problem getting enough protein and going to the gym.

[mothershipconnection]

I doubt switching to a vegetarian diet would have any real effect at this point. When you're his size, are young, and are working out, you'd have to be on a very poor diet to lose strength this quickly.

[bullox]

I can't imagine that the team's training staff (and/or dietician if they have one) would not go out of their way to make sure Prince supplements his protein intake while he demos this new diet. It is very very easy to get more than your daily intake of protein - in a couple scoops of whey powder.

[Mr QL]

Prince can play nice with the animals when he retires. I don't want my star player radically changing his diet. Until he proves otherwise I'll assume it has had a detrimental effect on him as a player. Person who said making it public was a mistake was right. He nor anyone else should be surprised that if he power outage than people would get on him for being a vegetarian. It's not like he looks any healthier anyways. If anything he looks fatter.

 

Prince should just drop it.

[brewers19]

Yeah, god forbid that his morals and ethical views get in the way of your entertainment.

[rluzinski]

Until he proves otherwise I'll assume it has had a detrimental effect on him as a player.

 

You are assuming causation without any evidence to support it? Generally not a good way to come to conclusions... ever. Of course, Prince not having a HR after 8 games is pretty much a non event to begin with. He had a similar start last year. What unsubstantiated cause was attributed to that power outage? New bedtime?

[Roscoe Chill]

Maybe Prince stopped wearing his lucky socks. THAT must be it! Prince, get those smelly things back on quick, we got the Mets coming up!!!

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Yeah, pretty comparable to totally cutting out meat in your diet!

 

Look, I really don't know if it's affected him as a baseball player, but neither do you people who are calling the possibility ridiculous.

 

He doesn't look slimmer. He's not hitting with power, he stopped eating meat because of reading "Skinny Bitch" so it's hardly an ethical or moral issue. He had one last meal of salmon, why would you need one last meal if meat totally grossed you out? I say all this, because I wouldn't be surprised to see him start eating meat again soon.

 

But again, I don't really care just yet, but the fact that he made this public is his own fault.

[SeriesFinale]

Prince can play nice with the animals when he retires. I don't want my star player radically changing his diet. Until he proves otherwise I'll assume it has had a detrimental effect on him as a player. Person who said making it public was a mistake was right. He nor anyone else should be surprised that if he power outage than people would get on him for being a vegetarian. It's not like he looks any healthier anyways. If anything he looks fatter.

 

Prince should just drop it.

Agreed. To that end, I suggest a pre-game show in NYC this weekend where Trenni injects Prince live on television with Bovine Growth Hormone...Wisconsin-bred hormones, of course. Problem solved.

 

[JohnBriggs12]

I'm just glad Bill Hall is still eating meat.

 

I'm not so concerned about the diet per se, bu I'm worried more that instead of focusing on getting ready for this season, his focus was elsewhere.

 

Does he not know where the covers of baseballs come from or what his mitt is made of?

[Roscoe Chill]

Does he not know where the covers of baseballs come from or what his mitt is made of?

 

Or where the millions of dollars he covets comes from for that matter. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[zzzmanwitz]

Carlos Beltranm, Aaron Rowand, Andruw Jones, Gary Sheffield, Troy Glaus, Nick Markakis, Corey Hart, BJ Upton, Russel Martin, Delmon Young, Robinson Cano, Ian Kinsler, Troy Tulowitzki, Hunter Pence, Carl Crawford, Matt Kemp, Garrett Atkins

 

Prince has as many HR as the above list combined. There is nothing to be worried about.

[fondybrewfan]

Well considering that he really hasn't even gotten close to a home run (except on 1 occasion) I dont think a lack of power from the absence of meat is his problem. Maybe if he all of a sudden developed warning track power you might have a case. Pretty obvious his swing isnt there right now, it has nothing to do with a lack of power.

[bball123h2]

Prince had 1 homer the entire season until April 22 last season. It is April, stats will look odd for a while yet (unless you think Prince will hit 0 homers this season while Kendall hits .500). If anything, maybe switching to healthier eating habits will help prolong his career and prevent a Mo Vaughn-esque descent.

[sgtcluels]

Prince has hit 1 Home run at this point last year. He hit only 2 in 18 games. A slow start more probably has to be that he's not seeing the ball well yet, then "weakness" from being a vegetarianism.

 

Do you guys HONESTLY think that Prince isn't working with a nutritionist to ensure he's getting his protein? Hell, Tofu will give you what 6 of the 7 required protein you get from meat, you just have to subsidize one protein with things like fish oil. Just because he doesn't eat meat doesn't mean he's going to be a wuss, or that he's going to be weak. People blame his "lack of power" to anything we notice that's different. Hey he ate meat last year, and doesn't now and he's not racking like he did at the end of the season.

 

I give massive Kudos to prince for taking a ethical stance and not being preachy about it. Keep it up big guy.

 

Not to double post, but to say you lost all your weight and power from not eating meat doesnt' carry much weight to me. How did you plan to manage your protein? Did you supplement your missing protein with Tofu/Lentils supplements? It seems to me like you didn't plan enough to ensure you stuck to a diet that was conducive to your needs to stay bigger and more power. Simply stop eating meat with out taking a good look at how you will replace the nutrients seems irresponsible. Before you can claim power loss, lets discuss your diet, and lets find out how Prince is dealing with it. I'm certain that he's taking steps to ensure that he won't lose protein or power. I mean if he's irresponsible he'll lose millions, I'm sure seeing dietitian is on his list of things to do.

[lukevan]

Hitting WOAH SOLVDD, eat a hot dog Prince!

[naivin]

"Its amazing how many of you have bought into the meat-manhood myth."

 

It has nothing to do with manhood and it's not a myth. Female athletes need protein too. Anyone that has ever trained for a sport will tell you that eating right is important. Any dietician will tell you that that includes eating protein, fats and carbohydrates. He got his dietary advice from a book written by a fashion model for Pete's sake. Unless Prince is drinking about a gallon of whole milk per day, I'm worried about this.

You do realize protien is found in things other than meat, don't you?

[JohnBriggs12]

Two years ago for health reasons, I made a minor change in my diet. It was something I was conscious of virtually every waking hour for months. Sure he can find ways to make up for the protein, but that requires a lot of effort and planning that isn't being put into his job.

 

That he's going to be on Good Morning America discussing his diet is disturbing. I'd rather him spend more time in the batting cage.

 

I also don't believe a meatless diet is in any way necessarily healthier than a balanced diet that includes low fat meats.

[homer]

"That he's going to be on Good Morning America discussing his diet is disturbing. I'd rather him spend more time in the batting cage. "

 

Yes, the ten minutes he's on GMA will prevent him from working on his swing. Maybe he should get rid of his cell phone so he doesn't waste time calling home.

[zzzmanwitz]

Sure he can find ways to make up for the protein, but that requires a lot of effort and planning that isn't being put into his job.

 

Professional Nutritionists

[JohnBriggs12]

Sure he can find ways to make up for the protein, but that requires a lot of effort and planning that isn't being put into his job.

 

Professional Nutritionists

 

Whom he has to hire, pay, and consult with. I'd rather he consult with Skaalen.

[Brian the Automator]

I also don't believe a meatless diet is in any way necessarily healthier than a balanced diet that includes low fat meats.

Can you trace all the meat you eat back to the source where it was raised? If you can't, then you have no idea what they're putting in those animals. With vegetables, there's a lot less "moving parts".

 

[JohnBriggs12]

"That he's going to be on Good Morning America discussing his diet is disturbing. I'd rather him spend more time in the batting cage. "

 

Yes, the ten minutes he's on GMA will prevent him from working on his swing. Maybe he should get rid of his cell phone so he doesn't waste time calling home.

10 minutes? Isn't tomorrow's game an afternoon game after a night game? He should be resting not talking to media types.

[JohnBriggs12]

I also don't believe a meatless diet is in any way necessarily healthier than a balanced diet that includes low fat meats.

Can you trace all the meat you eat back to the source where it was raised? If you can't, then you have no idea what they're putting in those animals. With vegetables, there's a lot less "moving parts".

 

 

I thought politics was off the table on this board Brian. Ever hear of the FDA? That statement is clearly political.

 

How about all the hard working Americans employed in this country in the meat industry?

[homer]

He's 23. He could play five double headers on consecutive days and not get tired.

[SoCalBrewfan]

If we didn't know about Prince's diet, I suspect that the thread would be about whether the contract renewal had ticked off Prince and thrown off his mental approach to the game. And who knows...that may be a factor. His diet may be a factor. Having Gabe Kapler on the team might be a factor...or maybe Guillermo Mota wears some kind of after shave that Prince doesn't like. Maybe Prince is worried about the economy...maybe his shares of Bear Stearns went in the tank. Maybe he's a Ron Paul devotee, despondent that America didn't embrace his guy. It could be that the increased expectations this year, and the key role Prince plays in the offense, have him overly wound up...the guy is pretty intense.

 

Or it could just be that Prince is on a cold streak...seems to me that he's been a fairly streaky player in the past, and that power hitters go through this up and down all the time. For all that is riding on Prince, I'm gonna assume the team has people who know nutrition and kinesiology who could diagnose a dietary deficiency that leads to decreased bat speed.