5/31/07 Marlins (Obermueller) @ Brewers (Vargas): 7:05 PM CT

[DHonks]

I like the lineup someone else posted, although perhaps Ned is going to continue experimenting with Hart at the top of the lineup. I could see

 

Hart

Hardy

Braun

Fielder

Hall

Jenkins

Weeks

Estrada

 

or even Weeks and Braun flip-flopped. I'm sure Estrada will hit 5th or 6th, but I would be intrigued by this lineup

[hawing]

Well, my group has one big Corey Hart fan (which is why we are sitting in the RF bleachers), so I'd appreciate Ned including him tonight.

[SlideBernieSlide]

Prediction: While I have faith we might be able to score some runs on Obermueller...I'm predicting Wes will get an extra base hit off of Claudio and might even take him deep??

[BrewCrewForever]

Obermueller actually showed flashes of brilliance at times

 

Yes there were a few starts that he looked rather good in. But more often then not he would get shelled.

[jjgott]

Yea, if I recall correctly, there was one game in Washington where Wes took either a no-hitter or a one hitter into the ninth and somehow we lost that game. I think it ended 1-0.

 

Man, those were the days...

[hawing]

Wes took a no-no into the 7th, I believe. I was listening to the game, thinking to myself that if he finished 'pitching really well' that I'd have to get an Obermueller jersey. Not a tee, a jersey, because who knows how long it would be before there's a Brewers no-hitter again?

 

But then someone got a hit and that saved me some coin.

And it was against the Nats. Wes' lone win to date this year also came vs. Washington.

[Oldcity]

I'm pretty sure Obermueller took a perfecto into like the sixth inning that game against the Nats. That was what, like three or four years ago?

 

I also support keeping Hart in the leadoff spot for the time being and seeing how that goes.

[BrewCrewForever]

I wanna say the no hit game Obie almost had was in 2004.

[rluzinski]

He had several very good games with the Brewers:

 

9 IP, 0 ER

 

7 IP, 0 ER

 

6 IP, 1 ER

 

7.2 IP, 0 ER

 

8 IP, 0 ER (Carried a perfect game into the 7th)

 

6 IP, 1 ER

 

Of course, he also got shelled a bunch as well. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[BrewCrewForever]

I was off a year, 2005 was his almost no hitter against the Nats.

[Voodoo Muppet]

Wes's flirtation with perfection was on the day my son was born. He and I watched it in the hospital room while my wife slept. (well, my son was sleeping too)

[hawing]

Obie also had that nice late-season (2004, I assume) outing vs. Houston on national TV.

 

He tended to do well when we were in attendance. Of course, I'm not hoping for that tonight.

[jjgott]

Quote:

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8 IP, 0 ER (Carried a perfect game into the 7th)

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Kinda funny...but the two pitchers of record for that game were Obermueller and Vargas.

[trwi7]

The last time Obermueller and Vargas faced off was when Obie was with the Crew and Vargas was with the Nats.

 

Vargas went 1.1 innings giving up 6 ER's 2 BB's and 1 K

 

Meanwhile Obermueller went 8 innings giving up 2 hits, 0 walks and 4 K's.

 

This was the game where Obie had a perfect game with one out in the 7th until Jamey Carroll broke it up.

[cruiserx43]

I was actually at that game which was a no no into the 7th. My old college roommate and I just kept looking at each other between innings in a state of shock. Almost as crazy as the Moeller cycle incident. Those were the days.

[rluzinski]

This was the game where Obie had a perfect game with one out in the 7th until Jamey Carroll broke it up.

 

That's funny. I posted the link to that game's box score above but didn't even notice that Vargas pitched in it.

[Hammer]

Does Obie = Bush? Great moments...big innings?

[homer]

Quote:

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so it wouldn't be fair to lump him in with guys like Wayne Franklin or all those other horrible, ex-Brewer starting pitchers.

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I still can't believe the Brewers got Villanueva for Franklin.

[BrewCrewForever]

Does Obie = Bush? Great moments...big innings?

 

I think overall Bush is a better pitcher with more potential. But yes in some way he kind of does.

 

I still can't believe the Brewers got Villanueva for Franklin.

 

I know its so crazy, sometimes I wonder with all the great moves Melvin has made if that was his best and with the biggest "rip-off" value.

[Fike85]

Where in the minors was Villanueva when we got him for Franklin? What kind of prospect was he?

[SlideBernieSlide]

Line-ups posted on JSonline...

 

www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2&date=5/31/2007&id=24300

 

Florida

 

CF Alfredo Amezaga

2B Dan Uggla

SS Hanley Ramirez

3B Miguel Cabrera

LF Josh Willingham

RF Jeremy Hermida

C Miguel Olivo

1B Aaron Boone

RHP Wes Obermueller

 

Milwaukee

 

RF Corey Hart

SS J.J. Hardy

3B Ryan Braun

1B Prince Fielder

C Johnny Estrada

LF Geoff Jenkins

CF Bill Hall

2B Craig Counsell

RHP Claudio Vargas

[ccbrew]

We need to make Wes throw strikes.

 

I like the irony of that statement - the Brewers tried getting him to do that while he was actually on the team, and his inability to do it on most nights was what got him shipped out of town.

[JohnBriggs12]

Obermueller has always had enough stuff to be a solid major league pitcher.

 

His problem has always been that he tends more often than not to struggle with his command. Then he'll start issuing some walks, then eventually he'll get behind in the count and groove one.

 

Though he's had those games that have been pointed out where he's pounding the zone and getting ahead of hitters. When he does that, he's tough.

 

His last few starts, he's struggled. I've got to believe this game has special meaning for him so he will be either too jacked up and be all over the place, or really locked in and very tough.

 

He also needs a decent game to keep his rotation spot and possibly a job (pretty much the story of his career). So that may be weighing on him too.

[TheCrew07]

I like Hart batting lead off.

[BrewCrewForever]

I to like Hart batting lead-off. Weird is that Weeks is sitting for the 2nd straight day.