Does Coco get booed this week?

[Invader3K]

I'm going to the game tomorrow, and if Coco appears, I will definitely be booing, both because of how he left the team, and the fact that his appearance would mean a losing situation for the Brewers.

[adambr2]

The only ex-Brewers I booed when they come to Miller Park are Gary Sheffield, Jeffrey Hammonds and Wes Helms.

 

Why Wes Helms? Sheffield I can definitely understand but I don't understand the mass irrational hate for Wes Helms that many seem to have had the last few years. It's not like he was lazy or a cancer.

 

For the answer to the original question, I can definitely understand if Cordero gets booed, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. Jenkins being booed would be a travesty.

[rluzinski]

As far as I could tell, he gave it all that he had when he was under contract with the Brewers. That's all I can ask for.

[brewjihad]

Cordero road ERA in 2007: 6.55

 

Why wouldn't you want him in the game? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Tailgat0r76]

definitely should boo him. He stabbed the Brewers in the back over peanuts. At least with Lee, he had reason to leave.

Man, I really hope someday I can call four million dollars "peanuts"...

 

[dadofandrew]

Coco had earned the rights to be a FA, and he chose to play elsewhere. I certainly hope he's not booed, but realize he likely will be.

[adambr2]

definitely should boo him. He stabbed the Brewers in the back over peanuts. At least with Lee, he had reason to leave.

Man, I really hope someday I can call four million dollars "peanuts"...

 

 

Well, that depends how you look at it. Four million may seem fairly significant, but if we're talking about percentages 42M vs. 46M, we're talking a differential of 9% or so. I guess that's open to debate how significant of a difference that is.

 

I don't have a problem with the fact that he left for 4 extra million. I have a problem with the fact that he didn't even give Melvin a chance to make a counter-offer, or even tell Melvin what his offer from the Reds was. Doesn't seem he really was invested in staying here.

[Kpanz20]

Wait until Jenkins comes back...

 

Oh, I'm already waiting on those boo-birds.

 

I am of the opinion that I don't think Jenkins will get booed. There may be a few bad seeds out there, but overall I think he'll actually get cheered.

But, I definitely think Cordero will get booed because people will perceive his leaving as selfish and completely money related.

 

[Sundown Kid]

I really hope Jenkins doesn't get booed. He played hard and he played through pain. He suffered through nine losing seasons and was shown the door (albeit correctly) after finally reaching the good side of .500. He should be cheered respectfully.

 

Cordero is borderline. I would want to know the bottom line--would the booing enhance or hinder performance. Some players get rattled and others don't. As a closer, I would fear that road crowd booing would only stoke his competitive fire even more.

 

I'll join those who wonder why anyone would boo Wes Helms. No, he wasn't a great--or even good--player. But he also wasn't negative personality like an Alex Sanchez or Chuckie Carr. He wasn't a waste of free agent money like Franklin Stubbs, Sean Berry, or Jeffrey Hammonds. And he didn't spout off about the front office like Jeromy Burnitz.

[Tailgat0r76]

Four million may seem fairly significant, but if we're talking about percentages 42M vs. 46M, we're talking a differential of 9% or so...

 

I have a problem with the fact that he didn't even give Melvin a chance to make a counter-offer...

I can agree with you about the counter-offer, and he probably wasn't invested in staying here, but 4 million dollars is 4 millions dollars no matter how much you're making.

 

I don't know if many of us would turn down an extra 9% to our incomes over the next 4 years...

 

 

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[razzzorsharp]

Whether a player get booed or cheered depends on the 10% percent of the stadium that starts the cheering/jeering. Whatever they do the rest of the sheep will follow.

[nullbyte]

For Coco, do we really know how much he even knew about the negotiations?

Huh? No comprende. (Or is that your point?)

 

And anyone that's even thinking of booing Jenkins is a flat-out idiot.

Agree wholeheartedly.

[logan82]

Sundown Kid wrote:

I'll join those who wonder why anyone would boo Wes Helms.

From everything I have heard, Wes Helms is a very nice guy and all his teammates liked him. However, he has been a Brewer killer since 2004. He killed us when he played for us and has had big games against us when he came back. Yes I choose to ignore his pinch hitting in his last year with us. It was to little, to late by then.

[jazzytrav]

For Coco, do we really know how much he even knew about the negotiations?

Huh? No comprende. (Or is that your point?)

I didn't follow the Coco proceedings all that closely, so I'm wondering if Coco was really involved or if his agent just worked the deals and told him where he was going later. A lot of players could really care less about the business side of it, as long as their agent gets them the most money possible.

 

And I realize that the Brewers were never given a chance to match the offer, but was this the doing of Coco or the agent?

[mikevan1818]

Sort of off topic - but sort of not -

 

I was watching the pre-game for the Marlins game yesterday on MLB Extra Innings and they broke in and said something to the effect of, "Well, the front office has been busy this morning an we have just received some big news. Wes Helms has signed a deal with the Marlins and will join the team today. His flight will be landing at X time and he should be here half way through the game."

 

They went on for a good 3-4 minutes about Wes and how great of a guy he was in the club house and how well he did off the bench. They had a graphic with Wes and his career stats.

 

The it was almost like they were having a "Wes Helms Watch" as they showed his jersey hanging in the locker room - and all ready to go. I guess it is all relative - we "boo" Helms when he comes back, but the Marlins sign him and they are thrilled.

[olsonnet]

Considering how CoCo pitched when he went back to Texas and the hostile crowd there last year, I'd say give him the same treatment here and hope his pitching is equally bad.

 

And as for Jenkins, I also got tickets to the first 2 Philly games to see him. Definitely no booing from me and anyone who does obviously knows nothing about the game and hopefully the cheers will drown them out.

[yfinn6]

I guess it is all relative - we "boo" Helms when he comes back, but the Marlins sign him and they are thrilled.

This scenario reminds me a lot of when we traded C Lee to the Rangers for Mench, Coco, and Nix. Does anyone remember watching the game when Mench got to the stadium and they were showing him come into the stadium. It was as if the best player in the AL was coming to join the Brewers, all I could think of was that it was some kind of joke. I knew Mench wasn't going to replace C Lee in left field, but I didn't realize he was going to be as bad as he was.

 

 

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[Kurt]

I am against booing in general at Miller Park. But I'll be at the game on Thursday and If coco comes in, I'm booing him. Give me a break. If you sign a contract over 40 million dollars over 4 years and you switch from your current team over a matter of a few million dollars? You should be booed.

[Team Canada]

But guys, wait!! You forget that "it wasn't up to [him]"!

 

 

Heck yes he'll get booed, and should, for trotting out a ridiculous statement like that. Pathetic. Just suck it up and say you wanted the extra $4M. It's okay.

[HighLifeandPeanuts]

Let's hope we don't see him at all this series... actually, I can understand why he went to the Reds, he figures he won't get as much work there, less save opportunities...

[trwi7]

But guys, wait!! You forget that "it wasn't up to [him]"!

 

 

Heck yes he'll get booed, and should, for trotting out a ridiculous statement like that. Pathetic. Just suck it up and say you wanted the extra $4M. It's okay.

It wasn't up to him though. Don't you see? It was that dastardly Bean Stringfellow who forced him to take the extra $4 million!

[Tbadder]

I guess I don't inderstand those who will boo. Everyone here supports the marketplace. Everyone here believes in democratic principles. Cordero merely took the opportunity that this great country provides. Cordero always gave us his best work, and he was a valuable, contributing member. He never dogged it on the field--he wasn't perfect but who is? Cordero didn't bad mouth the fans or organization that I'm aware of, did he? Then why get angry at a player who is simply exercising the rights everyone here supports?

[jhart05]

No. Only because he's not going to get anywhere near the mound. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

But in reality, yes, he's going to get booed.

 

 

Now for Jenks. He was a good Brewer. He deserves the same type of treatment we gave to Cirillo when he would come back in a different uniform.

[MillerParkSouth]

If Jenkins gets booed, I will be incredibly irritated and disappointed, but you know there will be some drunk idiots who will. CoCo on the other hand I would boo like crazy if he was there. I may even make a trip down to heckle him in the pen just in case he doesn't make an appearance (which I hope he doesn't).

[pg44]

I know I will.