Booing

[brettac1]

Best booing ever = booing the throw to first base to keep a runner close.

[mothershipconnection]

Milwaukee fans certainly have a propensity to boo, and I really hope that with success and accompanying media attention we don't get branded as fair weather malcontents. Too many of us have waited with the patience of Job through awful years and stuck by our team, it'd be a shame if we all got branded a bunch of immature jerks because the bandwagoners are boo birds.

 

I think it's stupid to boo the home team unless they really perform poorly. If a pitcher is getting rocked and Ned doesn't pull him, go ahead and boo the decision. When a horrible error is committed, go ahead and boo the play, but just looking for an opportunity to boo, or booing the same player everytime is pretty classless. Sure, you paid for your seat, but so did I, and I'd prefer to not be distracted by a loud mouth who yells things only he thinks are amusing.

 

People in the upper midwest at times seem to be obsessed with their "rights", and extrapolate basic rights to stupid conclusions. Yeah, I paid for my seats, but does that mean I should be able to turn around and bare my butt cheeks to Gary Sheffield? I have freedom of speech, but does that mean I can go around a playground cussing at little kids? Rights aren't unlimited, nor do they mean you can take them to extremes and get a free pass on being a total piece of crap just because your rights allow you to do so.

[logan82]

mothershipconnection wrote:

Rights aren't unlimited, nor do they mean you can take them to extremes and get a free pass on being a total piece of crap just because your rights allow you to do so.

I was going to post something, but this sums up my thoughts better than I could have put it into words myself. I limit my booing to games when the Cubs come in so that the cheers of the Cubs fans are drown out.

[Kpanz20]

Last year I went to a game on Cecil Cooper bobblehead night vs. the Astros, and it just so happened Cooper was the interum manager of the Astros. They had a little peice on the big screen from an interview with Coop earlier in the day while he was in an Astros uniform, and about half the place actually booed him.

 

I couldn't believe it.

[logan82]

Last year I went to a game on Cecil Cooper bobblehead night vs. the Astros, and it just so happened Cooper was the interum manager of the Astros. They had a little peice on the big screen from an interview with Coop earlier in the day while he was in an Astros uniform, and about half the place actually booed him.

 

I couldn't believe it.

 

Are you sure that was booing. It wasn't COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP?

[drezdn]

Last night, I felt bad for Turnbow.

 

That said, the most disappointing thing for me wasn't the booing, it was more that no one seemed excited to be there. It was my first time seeing the Brewers live since the last game of the season last year, and I was excited, but people were hardly even cheering when the players were announced.

[snyttri]

Booing at an exhibition game can only give Milwaukee a reputation as a place where the people know nothing about baseball.

 

Cubs fans come to Miller Park to detract from the Brewers home field advantage and so do the boo birds.

[Kpanz20]

Are you sure that was booing. It wasn't COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP?

I'm 100% sure that all the people booing in my section were saying boo, not coop.

[Mr QL]

I've defended booing in the past but booing an exhibition game before the season has started or before so and so player has even done anything is kinda lame.

[TooLiveBrew]

I'll never forget being at the game where Albert Belle tried to decapitate Fernando Vina. That has forever defined my concept of what kind of time to boo. Booing a Brewers player for me would take something intentional, like Sheff tossing a ball into the seats.

 

 

EDIT: If anyone can embed that play, it'd be sweet to watch again. All I can remember is fans all around me jumping out of their seats, pissed off.

[brewerfan0425]

Booing is classless, just like the "YOU SUCK" chants

[JohnBriggs12]

I was wondering if Turnbow got booed last night. Had I been there, I probably would have given him a pass because it's an exhibition. But I'm sure these people weren't so much booing Turnbow last night, but the decision to bring him back.

 

Booing isn't classless. It's a sign of passion. These players get paid money most of us can only dream of. Every fan should and does have a level of performance expectation. If the player isn't meeting that expectation, what you want to cheer him?

[Fatter than Joey]

If you think your booing has an affect -- why would you boo your team and affect their chances of winning?

[kramnoj]

Booing is what a baby does. They don't like what is happening, so they cry.

[billyhallfan]

I havent done too much booing mainly Barry Bonds and other people who have used steroids

 

i'm guessing gagne will take some crap from you this year, that is a shame...

 

 

i boo for lack of effort, and for sheffield as well, but booing because hall struck out on a pitch in the dirt, or weeks bobbled a ball, what is the point?

 

but the thing is that the fans that have been there and are the die-hards aren't booing, the people filling the empty seats are the ones making the noise.

[gypcasino]

Best booing ever = booing the throw to first base to keep a runner close.

Or booing the throw to a base because you think any move by the pitcher other than a pitch is a balk.

[bando1234]

Let see,

To Grissom:I sceamed at Marquis Grissom for not running one out to first, I think I yelled , Grissom, Hamlin could have beat you to first in a quarter of the time it took you.

 

To Royster; Connie Mack has better managieral skills from where he is than you do.

 

Albert Belle; The ever so famous Joooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

 

I think a creative blurb or two or a simple boo is fine. I dont think it should get real personal & it should not go on & on & on. I just rememeber Tony Phillips going into the stands after someone about 12 or 13 years ago at County Stadium & confronting them. Just my opinion but if a player comes in the stand at you , more than likely you went too far & you deserved it.

[TooLiveBrew]

Booing isn't classless. It's a sign of passion.

 

Yeah. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/eyes.gif Just like humping someone's leg is a 'sign of passion.'

[Time for a Miller]

Booing is not a good way to communicate how you feel about something. I also find a lot of booing to be just plain wrong in a lot of cases. Like fans booing Brady Clark. I'm really afraid Jenkins is going to get booed when he actually deserves a standing ovation from the Miller Park faithful. It seems to me a lot of booing is done by more casual fans anyways.

[RyDogg66]

I was wondering if Turnbow got booed last night. Had I been there, I probably would have given him a pass because it's an exhibition. But I'm sure these people weren't so much booing Turnbow last night, but the decision to bring him back.

 

Booing isn't classless. It's a sign of passion. These players get paid money most of us can only dream of. Every fan should and does have a level of performance expectation. If the player isn't meeting that expectation, what you want to cheer him?

Yeah, I do. Remember when Fielder started 2006 something like 0-12 with 8 ks? Remember when he got a standing ovation? That was classy.

Also, if you have a problem with bringing back Turnbow, which you seem to do. Why not go down to Attanasio's office and boo him? He was one of the people who made the decision to make him back and he has more money than God? Why not boo Melvin whenever you see him?

 

If you do something that you are passionate about, why not boo a supervisor who makes more money than you if they fail to meet an expectation?

 

Booing is lame and classless in almost any kind of way you frame it. I pay a lot of money to go see a game, I would like to not have to put up with people who sit around me and boo all night.

 

 

[Invader3K]

I'm sorry, but some of you seem to be of the belief that everyone attending a baseball game should behave like the game is an upper crust social event, and politely clap for everything. I have to disagree with the sentiment. Baseball is a blue collar, working class kind of game. You're there in a stadium with thousands of other people, drinking beer and eating brats and nachos. Like it or not, most of the people attending the game don't know or care what OPS or WHIP are, and many only go to one or two games a year. They're "casual fans", and there's nothing wrong with that. They by and large support the teams' payroll. I don't see what right anyone has to tell someone else at a game how they can or can't express themselves. Yes, if they're being vulgar or overly obnoxious, that's one thing...but booing and cheering are both part of any sport, baseball included.

 

I have no problem with Milwaukee getting the reputation of having rowdy fans. I've heard Milwaukee called the Midwest's Philadelphia, and I have no problem with that, either (though that's probably a stretch). I'd rather have opposing teams hate the thought of playing at Miller Park, than thinking "Yeah, their fans don't care about anything, and we're going to roll over their team anyway." Remember the earlier part of this decade? That's basically what it was like. I'd rather not go back to that. I'd rather be at Miller Park with 30,000 fans, some of whom are booing, than sitting in a sedate group of 10,000 or so that seem like they're ready for a nap.

 

I do agree that the attitude of the fans at the game I went to on Friday was a bit underwhelming...the excitement level didn't seem to be there, but that could have been due to the cold weather or other factors (yes, I thought it was still fairly cold, even with the roof closed, and I had four layers on).

[lukevan]

If you're going to boo, you might as well put a "Hoo" behind it because that's how it comes off to me.

 

No one likes when the players' don't succeed. I understand when people do it if a guy is chronically underperforming or showing a lack of hustle/desire on the field. I don't understand why we boo Turnbow and give him no breaks while we had pitchers worse than him that escape the wrath of the fans. I guess I shouldn't say I don't understand it: higher leverage situations obviously bring with them more cathartic responses depending on the outcome. It's always going to be this way but it doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. It bugs me. Some booing is always going to occur but last year it increased exponentially even though we had the best team we've had in years.

[lcbj68c]

Also, if you have a problem with bringing back Turnbow, which you seem to do. Why not go down to Attanasio's office and boo him? He was one of the people who made the decision to make him back and he has more money than God? Why not boo Melvin whenever you see him?

 

If you do something that you are passionate about, why not boo a supervisor who makes more money than you if they fail to meet an expectation?

 

Booing is lame and classless in almost any kind of way you frame it. I pay a lot of money to go see a game, I would like to not have to put up with people who sit around me and boo all night.

 

Post of the Year for me Ryan. Well Said.

 

Next time the cook undercooks my "well-done" steak, I'm gonna go back into the kitchen and just start booing loudly, cuz hell, I paid good money for that. And then, I am going to stand next to the manager and start booing him because he allowed the guy to come back for another shift.

[Fatter than Joey]

I have a draining feeling that when the Blue Jays and Phillies come to town, a little piece of my soul will die and we'll have to resurrect this thread.

 

Yeah -- I agree. I think Jenks is going to handled poorly.

 

Best booing ever = booing the throw to first base to keep a runner close.

 

You are probably right -- the other time may be when the opposing manager goes out to hook a pitcher that is getting clubbed.

 

I'm sorry, but some of you seem to be of the belief that everyone attending a baseball game should behave like the game is an upper crust social event, and politely clap for everything.

 

I don't think anyone here thinks this....

 

Baseball is a blue collar, working class kind of game. You're there in a stadium with thousands of other people, drinking beer and eating brats and nachos.

 

And Packer football isn't? -- It seems there is a lot more booing at MP than at Lambeau.

 

Like it or not, most of the people attending the game don't know or care what OPS or WHIP are, and many only go to one or two games a year. They're "casual fans", and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

I don't think generalizations like this serve us well. It's like when stat-heads claim to be more objective than other people just because they know how to navigate a spreadsheet. Objectivity and Sabreitude are 2 independent characteristics, just like public behavior/booing is. Overall we could probably agree that the BF.net "cares about OPS an WHIP" -- however we are clearly divided on booing -- so lets not hang this on the new or "casual" fans. I think that most of the bump in attendance is coming from people like my mother in law, who are now having their reunions and family gatherings at MP and couldn't distinguish Prince Fielder from Prince Charles -- they primarily are rediscovering MP as a fun place to be in the summer and pretty much want drink a few beers and laugh.

 

I have no problem with Milwaukee getting the reputation of having rowdy fans. I've heard Milwaukee called the Midwest's Philadelphia,

 

I can't think of a positive attribute of being called the "Midwest's Philly"

 

I'd rather have opposing teams hate the thought of playing at Miller Park, than thinking "Yeah, their fans don't care about anything, and we're going to roll over their team anyway."

 

In a large part this thread discusses the "passion" related in booing the Brewers because you are upset. If anything I think opposing teams will realize that if Turnbow walks a batter, the fans will turn on him. I don't think any players hate the thought of the Brewer fanbase booing their own, they probably find it funny.

 

I'd rather be at Miller Park with 30,000 fans, some of whom are booing, than sitting in a sedate group of 10,000 or so that seem like they're ready for a nap.

 

I'd rather the fans get behind their team.

[geddymd73]

I'm fine with booing a stupid move, play, or a gross display of incompetence. When players and coaches aren't thinking or are simply distracted when they should be paying attention, the fans deserve better than that and boos are richly deserved.. I fully expect fan to boo when Turnbow pulls his bases loaded, 4 pitch walk type of crap. I expect booing when Sveum sends a player to the plate who is out by 15 feet. Boneheaded basrunning errors deserve boos. When, Estrada leisurely strolled to 1st base, he was begging for boos. When Yost makes his headscratching, boneheaded late game moves, I fully expect boos. Sure, I feel like booing when Ned puts out his Sunday lineup, but you can't do it unless the specific display of incompetence is right in front of us.