Your Milwaukee Bucks: Where Team Camaraderie Happens

[Gobias Industries]

Saw this on the sports blog "with Leather". Everyone except Bogut needs to go.

 

http://www.withleather.com/post.phtml?pk=5367

[jaybird2001wi]

That is downright hilarious. To make things for easier viewing, I embeded it:

 

 

Evidently, somehow I cannot embed youtube deals anymore for some reason.

[jlau20]

That's amazing. I've never been a huge Bogut fan, but coupling that with the fact that they play Down Under almost everytime he scores, I'm now a huge fan. Still not a fan of the NBA, but I'm now a Bogut fan.

[jaybird2001wi]

By the way, I am going to send this clip to the Journal Sentinel Bucks' beat writer for comedy relief.

[samwise]

They need to keep Bogut and he has shown some interest in staying. Now they need to get rid of the rest of the team. There was no lower point in the season then a few nights ago when the Bucks were beaten by a CBA team, I mean the Heat.

 

Bucks-Heat

[molitor fan]

Apparently Bogut broke his nose last night....maybe he will be held out of future games so that the Bucks do not accidentally win any more. Michael Redd complained about not getting the ball after the first quarter, and not playing in the 4th quarter.

[jaybird2001wi]

We mathematically can't "tank" the rest of the season to increase our odds of getting the No. 1 pick right?

[jlau20]

The thing is they don't really need to purposely tank the rest of the season. Just keep playing the same way they're playing now. I didn't even realize Marion wasn't playing either the other night against the Heat.

 

It really is time for everyone to go. Krystkowiak(?) included. No more former players/assistant coaches being made head coach please.

[Gobias Industries]

Seriously, Krystokawiak is the worst coach of all-time.

 

If any combination of him coaching next year, or Sund/Babcock as GM, I won't even bother to watch a game.

[Gopher74]

They need to keep Bogut and he has shown some interest in staying. Now they need to get rid of the rest of the team. There was no lower point in the season then a few nights ago when the Bucks were beaten by a CBA team, I mean the Heat.

 

Bucks-Heat

They're not a good team, but dumping Redd's not going to make them any better. It's not his fault he's not good enough to be a number 1 on a winning NBA team, it's the role he's been cast in.

 

And beyond that, the guys they need to dump, they can't dump. Mo's still up in the air for me. He's improved every year,but we haven't won with him. Is that his fault? I don't know. But Simmons, Gads....those guys aren't going anywhere.

 

I guess we just have to hope that we get a impact guy in this draft, or that Yi can turn into a real impact player. Here's hoping that Beasley goes to the Bucks after we luck out and win the first pick.

 

[Crew2323]

And beyond that, the guys they need to dump, they can't dump. Mo's still up in the air for me. He's improved every year,but we haven't won with him. Is that his fault? I don't know. But Simmons, Gads....those guys aren't going anywhere.

Oh, but if good ole' Herb wouldn't have interfered, Simmons, Gadzuric, AND Charlie Bell would all have been dumped for Zack Randolph. I understand Randolph has character issues, but you were dumping three ungodly, immovable contracts for one in Randolph. I'm sure at that point in time Kohl was still thinking playoffs and formulating a plan on how he could use the money from their playoff ticket packages to better the team next year.

[olliegjw]

I guess we just have to hope that we get a impact guy in this draft, or that Yi can turn into a real impact player. Here's hoping that Beasley goes to the Bucks after we luck out and win the first pick.

 

 

I may be in the minority, but I'd rather the Bucks get the 2nd or 3rd pick and draft Rose, from Memphis. A true point guard can change things around in a hurry. Exhibit 1 - TJ Ford's rookie season, where the Bucks made an unexpected run to the playoffs. Exhibit 2 - NO Hornets and Chris Paul. They have come out of nowhere to now competing for the one seed in the west.

[Katuluu]

I'm sure if the Bucks got the #1 pick they'd find a way to screw it up by drafting OJ Mayo.

[don1481]

Oh, but if good ole' Herb wouldn't have interfered, Simmons, Gadzuric, AND Charlie Bell would all have been dumped for Zack Randolph. I understand Randolph has character issues, but you were dumping three ungodly, immovable contracts for one in Randolph. I'm sure at that point in time Kohl was still thinking playoffs and formulating a plan on how he could use the money from their playoff ticket packages to better the team next year.

I would not want Zack Randolph anywhere near Bogut/Yi. I could just picture Randolph getting into a fight with Mo Williams within a matter of a few games for not passing him the ball. The guy has serious character issues, the kind that the Bucks would be best-served not having anywhere near their club. It'd be like the Oakland Raiders acquiring Randy Moss, only to have him wreak havoc on the franchise until traded elsewhere... oh wait.

Mo Williams has to go. He's shown this year that he is not what we call a point guard. The guy has very poor court vision, an unwillingness to distribute the ball, and puts it up far too often - many times on ill-advised, off-balance jump shots - to really be effective as a 1. People point to his assist totals as being "valuable" but really - how hard is it when most of his assists are passes to Redd for threes? Mo has trade value as a sixth man to a playoff team looking to add some scoring off of the bench.

 

Dump as many of the bad contracts as possible; no matter what, build around Bogut and Yi.

[danzig6767]

They need to keep Bogut and he has shown some interest in staying. Now they need to get rid of the rest of the team. There was no lower point in the season then a few nights ago when the Bucks were beaten by a CBA team, I mean the Heat.

 

Bucks-Heat

They're not a good team, but dumping Redd's not going to make them any better. It's not his fault he's not good enough to be a number 1 on a winning NBA team, it's the role he's been cast in.

 

And beyond that, the guys they need to dump, they can't dump. Mo's still up in the air for me. He's improved every year,but we haven't won with him. Is that his fault? I don't know. But Simmons, Gads....those guys aren't going anywhere.

 

I guess we just have to hope that we get a impact guy in this draft, or that Yi can turn into a real impact player. Here's hoping that Beasley goes to the Bucks after we luck out and win the first pick.

 

I don't agree at all. At the very least, one of Mo/Redd has to go and if i had my way, i'd shop both of them very strongly.

The biggest reason by far that the Bucks are crap and have been crap for awhile is they aren't just a bad defensive team, the are an absolutely terrible defensive team. Last year the Bucks finished as the second worst defensive team in the NBA, they are the same this year, only Memphis has been worse. You simply can't consistently win games when you allow teams to shoot 50% and above so many nights.

The biggest reason for the horrid defense is Mo/Redd are both terrible defenders. Neither guy stops dribble penetration at all, that's the easiest way to break down a defense. Neither guy hustles on or has a clue how to defend pick and rolls. Almost every night opposing teams abuse our guards socalled defense. The defense will never ever get good enough to win a lot of games with these two pathetic defenders waving red capes as guards blows right past them.

Mix in Redd is set to make 16/17/18 million per the next three season, that's a cap killer for a guy who plays no defense and gags more in the clutch than a used up porn hag. Mo makes nearly 9 million for his matador defense. That 26 million a year for two soft as butter turnstiles, they need to be purged from the roster ASAP.

[danzig6767]

I'm sure if the Bucks got the #1 pick they'd find a way to screw it up by drafting OJ Mayo.

If we can hopefully dump Redd and his terribly overpaid max contract, i'd be fine with drafting Mayo depending where our draft pick falls. I had a bad view of Mayo based on stuff i read about him during his recruitment, but i watched him play 4-5 times. He surprised me by how hard he plays defense and his willingness to pass the ball. Redd is a more skilled scorer at this point, but Mayo is a vastly better defender and vastly better passer given Redd struggles so much to pass because he always dribbles with his head down. Mayo is also a much better athlete and the Bucks severely lack athleticism.

Ideally the Bucks win the lottery so they could draft Rose, but odds are that won't happen. I'd love to trade both Mo/Redd and would be fine with landing Mayo along with one of Collison/Augustin if we picked up a mid first rounder in the trades.

 

[twobrewers]

I understand Randolph has character issues, but you were dumping three ungodly, immovable contracts for one in Randolph.

The whole point of that trade was that our 3 unmovable contracts = NY 1 unmoveable contract.

 

No one wins. We just end up with the same amount of money tied up in crap.

 

And to make matters worse - we would have Randolph on our team. I would cry if Zach Randolph ever became a Milwaukee Buck.

[Gopher74]

And to make matters worse - we would have Randolph on our team. I would cry if Zach Randolph ever became a Milwaukee Buck.

Not to mention the fact that he'd be blocking our only hope to develop a great young player in Yi who could possibly team with Bogut to make this team actually decent.

 

[billyhallfan]

I would cry if Zach Randolph ever became a Milwaukee Buck.

 

...and zach would cry if he became a Milwaukee Buck...

[Oldcity]

That was awesome. I agree. Keep Bogut and Yi, and then blow this mother up.

[don1481]

A typical example of just how ineffective Mo Williams is at the point came last night during the Bucks' 114-111 loss to Chicago:

 

The Bucks had, during the just under 30 minutes that Mo Williams played, a -16 point differential. When Ramon Sessions was at the point, for example, the Bucks were +17. Keep in mind that for most games, Mo not only has a negative differential, but has one of the LARGEST negative differentials for when he's on the court. He can score - in streaks - but he's always so consistently bad on D that other teams score more and fails to distribute the ball enough to give his teammates the best opportunities to score.

 

Mo needs to go.

[Gobias Industries]

Mo needs to go.

Yep. I remember you and I had similar arguments against the re-signing of Mo in the off season. He just isn't a point. At least not for a winning team.

 

I take it Sessions got somewhat significant playing time last night. About time; it was asinine to have him sit on the bench the last few weeks. You'd think they would want to know what they have in him going into next season.

[Mr QL]

I think I'm going to get on the "trade everyone but Bogut and Yi" bandwagon too. Maybe add in Ramon Sessions in there too. I like Redd and think he could be a great #2 player for a contending team but we need to move on. Mo has became everything any has feared he may be. This backcourt needs to go. Bobby Simmons needs to be gone. I'd just cut him if I can't find anyone stupid enough to take him. Bucks have alot of movable pieces, hopefully we see them move them although I doubt it.

 

I read the thing about Rick Sund being leading candidate for GM. Roy Hibbert/Hasheem Thabeet here we come. You guys over at RealGM need to do another protest ASAP or Rick Sund might have the impressive achievement of having two teams leave their cities under his watch. He's garbage. Absolute garbage. Hand out leaflets with all the horrible moves he's done as GM on them. Anything to stop that hire.

[trwi7]

A typical example of just how ineffective Mo Williams is at the point came last night during the Bucks' 114-111 loss to Chicago:

 

The Bucks had, during the just under 30 minutes that Mo Williams played, a -16 point differential. When Ramon Sessions was at the point, for example, the Bucks were +17. Keep in mind that for most games, Mo not only has a negative differential, but has one of the LARGEST negative differentials for when he's on the court. He can score - in streaks - but he's always so consistently bad on D that other teams score more and fails to distribute the ball enough to give his teammates the best opportunities to score.

 

Mo needs to go.

 

Your argument is ridiculous. There are three above average players on this team. Williams, Redd and Bogut, they all play a ton of minutes because the rest of the team is so bad so of course they're going to have bad differentials.

 

Everybody on our team is in the negative part of the . When your talent level is worse than most other teams and you play a lot of minutes it's going to effect your which is why is a stupid stat to begin with.

No surprise that Williams, Redd and Bogut have some of the worst differentials on our team. Has nothing to do with their talent level it has to do with garbage around them and them playing a lot of minutes.

[don1481]

Your argument is ridiculous. There are three above average players on this team. Williams, Redd and Bogut, they all play a ton of minutes because the rest of the team is so bad so of course they're going to have bad differentials.

Yes - Bogut and Redd have had negative differentials this season but Mo's does take the cake. And let's be honest - Mo is not even an average PG. His performance - or lack thereof - this season shows just how right I have been about him being a 2 pretending to be a 1.