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With The Game on The Line, What Brewer Would You Want Batting?


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No. I was asking a question of how a fans perception helps prove clutch wrong. If you asked me who the most clutch player one is on the Brewers I'd go with whoever has the best batting average with RISP over a large sample size. I'm not sure who that is because I dont' have the data in front of me.
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No. I was asking a question of how a fans perception helps prove clutch wrong. If you asked me who the most clutch player one is on the Brewers I'd go with whoever has the best batting average with RISP over a large sample size. I'm not sure who that is because I dont' have the data in front of me.
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No. I was asking a question of how a fans perception helps prove clutch wrong. If you asked me who the most clutch player one is on the Brewers I'd go with whoever has the best batting average with RISP over a large sample size. I'm not sure who that is because I dont' have the data in front of me.
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It's interesting that you ask a question like that, Rluz, since you are a hard core stats guy and out to prove that there is no such thing as clutch.

 

I'm not "out to prove" anything. I don't have some underlying agenda to dismantle the grand ol' game, one regression at a time! I just prefer statistical evidence over conjecture or anecdotal evidence.

 

There have been studies that have found evidence that certain players do have a "clutch" skill. What they found was a pretty small effect so far, however. Tango is a huge fan of the "wisdom of the crowds" theory, though. He has shown that as a group, fans can value defensive skills of individual players pretty well and can also project offensive numbers very well. He's done a lot of work coming up with a way to quantify clutch ABs and he's now giving the fans the chance to identify the players they want up in those high leverage situations. If the fans select an inferior batter over a better one, he's going to conclude that they feel that player is more clutch. Knowing that, he can test to see if that batter had indeed performed better than expected in clutch situations for 2008.

 

You believe in clutch and think some Brewers perform better or worse when the going gets tough? Rank them as such. If you don't, just pick who you think is the best overall hitter. It's up to you.


I'm not sure who that is because I dont' have the data in front of me.

I hear that the internet has that kind of stuff.

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It's interesting that you ask a question like that, Rluz, since you are a hard core stats guy and out to prove that there is no such thing as clutch.

 

I'm not "out to prove" anything. I don't have some underlying agenda to dismantle the grand ol' game, one regression at a time! I just prefer statistical evidence over conjecture or anecdotal evidence.

 

There have been studies that have found evidence that certain players do have a "clutch" skill. What they found was a pretty small effect so far, however. Tango is a huge fan of the "wisdom of the crowds" theory, though. He has shown that as a group, fans can value defensive skills of individual players pretty well and can also project offensive numbers very well. He's done a lot of work coming up with a way to quantify clutch ABs and he's now giving the fans the chance to identify the players they want up in those high leverage situations. If the fans select an inferior batter over a better one, he's going to conclude that they feel that player is more clutch. Knowing that, he can test to see if that batter had indeed performed better than expected in clutch situations for 2008.

 

You believe in clutch and think some Brewers perform better or worse when the going gets tough? Rank them as such. If you don't, just pick who you think is the best overall hitter. It's up to you.


I'm not sure who that is because I dont' have the data in front of me.

I hear that the internet has that kind of stuff.

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It's interesting that you ask a question like that, Rluz, since you are a hard core stats guy and out to prove that there is no such thing as clutch.

 

I'm not "out to prove" anything. I don't have some underlying agenda to dismantle the grand ol' game, one regression at a time! I just prefer statistical evidence over conjecture or anecdotal evidence.

 

There have been studies that have found evidence that certain players do have a "clutch" skill. What they found was a pretty small effect so far, however. Tango is a huge fan of the "wisdom of the crowds" theory, though. He has shown that as a group, fans can value defensive skills of individual players pretty well and can also project offensive numbers very well. He's done a lot of work coming up with a way to quantify clutch ABs and he's now giving the fans the chance to identify the players they want up in those high leverage situations. If the fans select an inferior batter over a better one, he's going to conclude that they feel that player is more clutch. Knowing that, he can test to see if that batter had indeed performed better than expected in clutch situations for 2008.

 

You believe in clutch and think some Brewers perform better or worse when the going gets tough? Rank them as such. If you don't, just pick who you think is the best overall hitter. It's up to you.


I'm not sure who that is because I dont' have the data in front of me.

I hear that the internet has that kind of stuff.

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