Marquette - Georgetown

[PKBadger]

First off, just wanted to say what a great game this has been to watch.

 

But I think Bo Ryan would murder one of his players if they fouled a jump-shooter with a 3-point lead and 2.5 seconds left in the game. James is an idiot.

[Glennron]

Marquette's doing everything they can to give the game away. Hayward and Mbakwe have missed plenty of open shots. Marqutte should've fouled with 5 seconds left also, up 3.

[sgtcluels]

Yeah that was a bone head play.

 

If Marquette didn't shoot free throws like Shaq, they'd be up by a ton. If I was GTown I'd just constantly foul, not like they are going to make more then 1.

[Crew2323]

While I am a Badger fan first and foremost, I watch Marquette when I get the chance. I just want to know why James seemed to have no urgency bringing the ball up the court on the last possession. It seemed like he thought there was more time on the clock then there was. It was a pitiful way to end the game. It looked like no one knew what to do or who was supposed to be where. Tough way to lose.

[Fike85]

Terrible foul by James...he should have just let Wallace take a contested three. MU had their chance to win the game, AND THEY BLEW IT! On the bright side, they're a lock for the NCAA tournament and outside of the race for 4th in the Big East this game did not have much tangible meaning. Though it was National Marquette Day...

[danzig6767]

Terrible foul by James...he should have just let Wallace take a contested three. MU had their chance to win the game, AND THEY BLEW IT! On the bright side, they're a lock for the NCAA tournament and outside of the race for 4th in the Big East this game did not have much tangible meaning. Though it was National Marquette Day...

Even though James had a total brainfart in fouling the shooter with 2.5 seconds left, i never cease to be amazed at how many coaches don't foul before the shot while up three points and under 5 seconds left on the clock.

If Crean had Marquette foul around half court with about 4 seconds left, Georgetown would have had to make the first free throw, miss the second on purpose, get the rebound, and put that rebound in the hoop quickly.

I'll take my chances against that happening any day over letting a team get a three point shot up.

Come NCAA Tourney time, i have no doubt that at least a few teams will get burned with a few seconds left and holding a three point lead. They won't foul before a shot can be put up and they will pay the price for it.

 

[don1481]

James showed yesterday why he has no business even thinking about the NBA draft this year.

 

The last play in regulation AND the final play in the game, where James took his sweet time bringing up the ball with less than 8 seconds to go and then promptly choked, show why he's not ready. He has to be a lot smarter than that on the court.

[PKBadger]

James showed yesterday why he has no business even thinking about the NBA draft this year.

 

The last play in regulation AND the final play in the game, where James took his sweet time bringing up the ball with less than 8 seconds to go and then promptly choked, show why he's not ready. He has to be a lot smarter than that on the court.

 

My impression has always been that he's more concerned with being a "baller" than being a basketball player.

 

[don1481]

KegStand, you're dead on with that. James cannot put it together because he doesn't want to.

 

Maybe Crean should consider benching James for a couple of games. Say to him "get your wrist, your ankle, and your head healthy and then you can get your spot back."

[Oldcity]

Even though James had a total brainfart in fouling the shooter with 2.5 seconds left, i never cease to be amazed at how many coaches don't foul before the shot while up three points and under 5 seconds left on the clock.

Yep. I just don't get why coaches don't do this. Bruce Pearl did it the other day and it helped Tennessee beat Memphis (not that one example is reason to do it, I'm just saying).

 

Marquette missed easy layups and a ton of free throws. Add in a bunch of questionable calls going Georgetown's way down the stretch and in OT, and that dude banking in that sick three pointer in OT, and it made for an extremely frustrating game.

[Hart Of Milwaukee]

James showed yesterday why he has no business even thinking about the NBA draft this year.

The last play in regulation AND the final play in the game, where James took his sweet time bringing up the ball with less than 8 seconds to go and then promptly choked, show why he's not ready. He has to be a lot smarter than that on the court.

Well then if were gonna use that small of a sample size to determine a players status, I'd say James is a future hall of famer, because of the way he played the last two minutes at Notre Dame. I'm sick of people who call out James just because he is rough around the edges. He is a great pointguard who won't be drafted high, but will have success in the NBA. He may not shoot well, but his court vision is pretty hard to match at the college level. Overall, I'd take him over Hughes any day of the week!

[LouisEly]

If Crean had Marquette foul around half court with about 4 seconds left, Georgetown would have had to make the first free throw, miss the second on purpose, get the rebound, and put that rebound in the hoop quickly.

 

I thought about that, but G-town had outrebounded Marquette and Barro had fouled out of the game. So it would have been Hibbert, Summers, and Ewing versus Burke, Mbakwe, and Hayward for the rebound and in that scenario I don't like our chances.

 

Yeah James did a stupid thing, but there's plenty of blame to go around. The free throw shooting, Hayward going 0-8, and McNeal going 5-21 certainly put them in a position where James foul even mattered.

[brwrsfan]

Has anyone else noticed that Georgetown has seemed to have gotten the benefit of the doubt in the last 5 seconds of 3 seperate games this year:

 

#1 - Non-goal tending call in the last second against West Virginia. It was a 1 point lead for GU and I believe it was Hibbert blocked a finger roll attempt in the final 2 seconds. It was extremely close, and in the replays I saw, probably was a goaltend. They didn't call it, GU wins by 1.

 

#2 - Against Villanova a copule weeks back. Nova has the ball, less than 10 seconds left in a time game. Nova player takes a shot, and possibly gets fouled, no call. After a scramble, a GU player gets the ball and head up court. He slightly gets bumped, and the official calls a foul with .01 seconds remaining, 75 feet from the hoop. Makes both free throws, GU wins by 2.

 

#3 - Against Marquette...it was hard to tell if James got him or not, but plays like that have been let go on numerous occassions and just as easily could have been not called.

 

3 games - 3 calls in the last 2 seconds, all in GU's favor. They easily could have lost all 3, and they probably should have lost to WVU and Marquette, yet they continue to get all this talk as a powerhouse, 2 seed in the tournament. They're a solid team, but those 3 games should be looked at a bit more closely when seeding for the tournament comes around.

[Barbs4339]

Fouling with under 5 seconds is a much better strategy especially with the new rules for lining up for free throws. Now that they line up further from the hoop, offensive rebounds on missed free-throws are extremely hard to come by. I expect more team to employ this strategy from now on.

[Gobias Industries]

After seeing James' bonheaded play on the highlights, my suspicions of him as a player were confirmed. I think...

 

I think Dominic James would have been a lottery pick ten years ago. Unfortunately for him, point guards of his kind (shoot first with a bad fg %, mixed with a bad attitude, and topped off with a extremely low basketball IQ) are slowly being weeded out of the NBA. We're seeing a renaissance of great floor generals. Great news for basketball fans though, the NBA games have been very good this year, especially the West. I hardly watch college basketball but when I do happen to see him play, I see a shorter version of Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury. Not exactly the pro comparisons a prospect should want these days.

[fondybrewfan]

Yeah James would have been better off going to the NBA after his Frosh year. Seems he has gotten worse the last 2 years and I honestly don't think he would even get drafted. There are plenty of other good point gaurds out there that blow James away (Collison from UCLA, Rose from Memphis, Lawson from UNC) just to name a new. I think he has no choice but to come back next year whether that is actually good for Marquette who knows.

[bork]

I think he has no choice but to come back next year whether that is actually good for Marquette who knows.

I think you're right. It will be tough as an MU fan to have to sit through another year of watching James.

[Glennron]

I realize he hasn't progressed much the last two years, but I don't get the hatred for him. I just checked and he's 6th in the Big East in Assist/TO ratio. To say he has an "extremely low Basketball IQ" based on one play is completely ridiculous. That foul is probably like 4th or 5th on the list of reasons why Marquette lost the game, after missed free throws, Hayward's awful performance (why aren't more people on him?), and Crean having them not foul before they could shoot.

[Hart Of Milwaukee]

To say James coming back might not be a good thing is just completly dumb. If you believe that you obviously don't watch the games, in fact you probably just skim a couple sportcenter highlights and think you have an informed opinion. James hasn't gotten worse over the last two years, it is just that people don't like his personality, so they keep pointing out the flaws in his game.

[bork]

it is just that people don't like his personality

You're absolutely right. I know he's a talented player, but I can't stand him. I'm an MU alum and I love MU basketball, but I've barely watched them over the past 3 seasons because of James.

[Hart Of Milwaukee]

You're absolutely right. I know he's a talented player, but I can't stand him. I'm an MU alum and I love MU basketball, but I've barely watched them over the past 3 seasons because of James.

Good post! That is exactly what I was trying to reason. I can't stand TO or Kobe Bryant, but that doesn't mean I think they are bad players. James is a good player, and probably one of the top 10-15 pointguards in the country, however he is far from a model citizen.

[Oldcity]

What do you mean by model citizen? Doesn't that imply that he has a sketchy off-court life? I haven't heard anything to imply that.

 

Unless you mean you don't like his on-court demeanor...

 

It's a huge stretch to say Marquette would be better without him. There'd be a huge drop-off if you had Acker or Cubillan running the point.

[Hart Of Milwaukee]

What do you mean by model citizen? Doesn't that imply that he has a sketchy off-court life? I haven't heard anything to imply that.

 

 

The attitude on this board towards James is pretty negative and not exactly flattering. Whether he is or isn't like this I really don't know.

(Wisconsin vs Marquette thread)

I really can't stand James. I think he is a punk.....Badgers need to learn how to shoot FTs

I go to Marquette, huge fan, and I will agree with you, James is a punk, I have never heard anything good about him around campus to be honest with you, but he has a ton of potential and actually stepped up today, I usually can't stand the way he plays, but he sure carried the team today, great win .

Agree with the above post - James is a punk. Some of the gestures he was making (probably off-camera) were quite childish.

What I was trying to saying with the model citizen comment is James never has been one of those give credit to the team, don't trash-talk, and don't taunt player guys. I actually like some of his antics, because I think he's just overcompensating for the beating he takes night in and night out.

[Oldcity]

I'm with you on the trash-talking and taunting, but a ton of players do that. I have never seen him fail to credit teammates where credit was due. I'm wondering if you disagree with my opinion that Marquette would have at least two fewer conference wins if James wasn't on this team.

[Hart Of Milwaukee]

All of my previous post state that I think he is a top tier pointguard that is critized too harshly, because many people don't like his flamboyant attitude. Maybe you got one of my posts confused with one of the other forum members, because I think he is a great asset to Golden Eagle basketball. Overall, he will be the one of the main reason why Marquette goes farther than the Badgers in March.